From: jgoodman@clark.net (John V. Goodman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games Subject: Marathon: Major Damage Turns Me Into Girlie Man Date: Wed, 07 Dec 1994 20:46:28 -0500 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <jgoodman-0712942046280001@jgoodman_ppp.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jgoodman_ppp.clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Value-Added NewsWatcher 2.0b19.1+ Well, I thought I was getting reasonably good at the Marathon demo. Then I changed the difficulty from Normal to Major Damage... Took me thirty tries of getting hacked to bits on the first level before I finally made it to the first airlock door (although the rest the level and the first half of level 2 were easier.) I try to sidestep and back up but I always run out of room! Might someone who's pumped up post a movie showing the correct way to get through Level 1 on Major Damage? -- John V. Goodman jgoodman@clark.net From: seadams@eis.calstate.edu (Sean P Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games Subject: Re: Marathon: Major Damage Turns Me Into Girlie Man Date: 7 Dec 1994 21:37:29 -0800 Organization: California Technology Project of The Calif State Univ Lines: 189 Message-ID: <3c662p$qoq@eis.calstate.edu> References: <jgoodman-0712942046280001@jgoodman_ppp.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: eis.calstate.edu > Might someone who's pumped up post a movie showing the correct way to get > through Level 1 on Major Damage? Here's a little flik I did. It's pretty long, but it's real thorough, and shows everything you need to do to get through level 1 without using too much ammo. 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Do I > > just suck? > > Yes, we all play this well. Here's how I clean up level one on Total > Carnage, for instance. > well...if you don't mind me saying : (a) you were lucky the 4 nasties in the room down the stairs , near the beginning, didn't all come after you at once and stopped at the stairs (especially, since you had absolutely no shields left). (b) your handling of the blue nasties in the southern most room was...well...kinda boring and wasted a *lot* of ammo. you should just run into the room, and run circles around them, make them kill themselves off, then finish off the last fella with fists. (I didn't finish watching you killing the blue guys coz it took you so long). better luck next time. -----------------------------------------------. .. .. __o Tian Lim Math/CS . . ._ \<, tl1m@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University. ... `,/'(*) -----------------------------------------------. ...(*) Quote #72 : Congress is not the sole suppository of wisdom. -- Rep. Bill Schuette (R-MI) From: steven_moy@brown.edu (Steve Moy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games Subject: Re: Marathon: Major Damage Turns Me Into Girlie Man Date: 8 Dec 1994 07:32:57 GMT Organization: Brown University Lines: 38 Message-ID: <steven_moy-0812940233350001@tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu> References: <jgoodman-0712942046280001@jgoodman_ppp.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu In article <jgoodman-0712942046280001@jgoodman_ppp.clark.net>, jgoodman@clark.net (John V. Goodman) wrote: > Well, I thought I was getting reasonably good at the Marathon demo. > Then I changed the difficulty from Normal to Major Damage... > > Took me thirty tries of getting hacked to bits on the first level before I > finally made it to the first airlock door (although the rest the level and > the first half of level 2 were easier.) > > I try to sidestep and back up but I always run out of room! > > Might someone who's pumped up post a movie showing the correct way to get > through Level 1 on Major Damage? > > -- > John V. Goodman > jgoodman@clark.net No need -- just don't do anything at the main screen and watch the demos. They play level one on Total Carnage! All of the bug aliens are purple or blue! I thought I was pretty good at Marathon, but the guy in the demo is incredible! What an ego buster! Do all of you other people not associated with Bungie play this well? Do I just suck? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "For instance, if you look out of * * Steve Moy that window, you can see what * * steven_moy@brown.edu appears to be a world out there." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From: bwanga@cats.ucsc.edu (Tim Seufert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games Subject: Re: Marathon: Major Damage Turns Me Into Girlie Man Date: 10 Dec 1994 04:59:25 GMT Organization: University of California at Santa Cruz Lines: 36 Message-ID: <bwanga-0912942102250001@tsb-44.ucsc.edu> References: <jgoodman-0712942046280001@jgoodman_ppp.clark.net> <steven_moy-0812940233350001@tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsb-44.ucsc.edu X-Newsreader: Value-Added NewsWatcher 2.0b19.1+ In article <steven_moy-0812940233350001@tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu>, steven_moy@brown.edu (Steve Moy) wrote: > No need -- just don't do anything at the main screen and watch the demos. > > They play level one on Total Carnage! All of the bug aliens are purple or blue! > > I thought I was pretty good at Marathon, but the guy in the demo is > incredible! What an ego buster! > > Do all of you other people not associated with Bungie play this well? Do I > just suck? Actually, it looked like the person who did the Level 1 demo film was deliberately allowing damage - there were several places where he could have avoided hits, but didn't. I've gotten to the pattern buffer on Total Carnage with more damage points left than the guy in the demo film did - after the pattern buffer, the rest is relatively simple. (The only tough part is the roomfull of aliens, but you can pass that by getting them to kill each other.) Now, I can't do it consistently. The first part of Level 1 on Total Carnage is fairly random: if you attract the attention of the four or five aliens in the downstairs room, and get surrounded, you're toast. Sometimes they will hear me while I battle in the main corridor. I can't take on more than three or four of them at once, in those parts. Either the aliens need to be extremely deadly to each other (as in the room in the maze), or you must take them on a few at a time. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | *UselessWastedSpace*(tm) Tim Seufert, bwanga@cats.ucsc.edu | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Do the environment a favor. Use goat-flavored floppy disks. | | Think about it, won't you? Thank you. | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bwu@panix.com (Bryan Wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games Subject: Re: Marathon: Major Damage Turns Me Into Girlie Man Date: Fri, 09 Dec 1994 02:15:10 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 15 Message-ID: <bwu-0912940215100001@bwu.dialup.access.net> References: <jgoodman-0712942046280001@jgoodman_ppp.clark.net> <3c662p$qoq@eis.calstate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.84.253.18 In article <3c662p$qoq@eis.calstate.edu>, seadams@eis.calstate.edu (Sean P Adams) wrote: > Here's a little flik I did. It's pretty long, but it's real thorough, and > shows everything you need to do to get through level 1 without using too > much ammo. I'd LOVE to see someone complete level 1 without using ANY > ammo on major damage. here we go: I believe I just posted a film where I did major damage w/o shooting - but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I could have done it though.. :) hint: let the shooting aliens kill themselves off by running around them. I hope/am scared thinking about if the new aliens are smarter when it comes to predicting where you're running to as opposed to shooting where you're at.. Bryan