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BartF : Welcome Bungie!
ChrisSuley : I thought their name was 'BungieSoft'.
CourtJ3 : <--- marathon master
Tuncer : Welcome Jason!
BungieCorp : Hey guys ... sorry I'm late, had some trouble getting on.
MaryT1021863 : it is
LTC : <------Never played marathon
JasonWhong : Why, thank you , Tuncer
MaryT1021863 : quiet
Tuncer : We'll be starting in about 3 minutes!
A.Steele : hello bungie
Sabotage : <-----Bowing to bungie to finally see marathon out after
5months (right amount of time?)
Peter A. : This conference is getting big.
CWallner : Jason rules!
LTC : QUIT DOWN PEOPLE!
Doug Lier : starting what?
Kerensky : Hi
ChrisSuley : Hmm, even the start of the conference is delayed.
A Burke : 46 people!
TripleSoft : Hi Bungie :)
LEW002 : when do we roll?
Gary Makin : Hi Tuncer
Ralphey : hello
Lll333 : When are they going to give it away
MaryT1021863 : I48
ETrekker : Oh geez, choose between trying to win Marathon, or DS9.
Choices, choices!
MaryT1021863 : It's time!!!!!
TroyZarger : Anybody know about the game they are going to give away?
SAmies : ::: Bowing Down to Bungie:::
A.Steele : *Laughing*
Peter A. : It's 7 already.
MC QUWINKY : Hey can anyone explain to me about this forum
MC QUWINKY : ??
Ralphey : How do you sign up for the free Marathon
MC QUWINKY : what's it about??
Lll333 : E treker how do you win ds9?
MaryT1021863 : THis is getting boring
Boone : You have to win it.
CourtJ3 : Wow, jason, you really packem in!
LStanford : ?
ChrisSuley : It's nice to see such raw, unabashed materialism.
BENGIR : MC quiwinky just leave this forum!
A.Steele : *Welcome*
Peter A. : Hey Tuncer don't you write for IMG???
LEW002 : when do we roll????
BartF : to quote a line from "Dr No" 2 minutes and counting
PBGuru : Bart, going to take control?
RonLFH49D : I've played a demo of Pathways Into Darkness, but am looking
forward to playing Marathon!!!
JasonWhong : Hello
SweetFairy : Hi!
Ralphey : Pathways was cool
Peter A. : Marathon is great!
Tuncer : Yes, I right for IMG
A.Steele : *Cheer**Boo*
Boone : Please let me win.
LStanford : <--- Just got Marathon today!
Ralphey : Fat chance
BartF : Ok, let's ge t the ball rolling!
MaryT1021863 : If I don't win, I'm getting the DEMO
Sabotage : Marathon is the best!!
Ralphey : Is it good
A.Steele : I've been GOOD!
RonLFH49D : *Cheer**Boo*
BartF : FIRSTLY SILENCE PLEASE
NelsonT : Very Nice Sound! (First timer here)
Ottoman Bill : (Demo is great)
Tuncer : Please DO NOT send chat sounds!
A.Steele : *Boo*
LEW002 : (Blastphime Q is hard)
Tuncer : OK, here we go!
Peter A. : Great.
A.Steele : oh---SORRY!
BartF : I would like to welcome Jason from BUngie!
Tuncer : Welcome to the Inside Games conference!
Tuncer :
Tuncer : Our special guest tonite is Jason Jones from Bungie
Tuncer : Software. Jason is the Lead Programmer at Bungie
Tuncer : and tonite we'll be discussing their new release,
Peter A. : Hello Jason!!!
CourtJ3 : ?
LEW002 : hi jason!!!!!
Tuncer : Marathon.
A.Steele : hey jhason
Tuncer :
Tuncer : We will be using protocol tonite, which means if you'd
Tuncer : like to ask a question, please type a ?. Your host will then
Tuncer : maintain a QUEUE and will tell you when to ask your
Tuncer : question.
Tuncer :
Tuncer : Please wait until Jason types GA (for go ahead) to send
KEATS4 : Hiya Jason
Tuncer : your question.
NelsonT : Hi Jason
BartF : And yes, there will be more than one copy (probably) given
away
Kerensky : hi Jason
Tuncer :
Tuncer : At the end of the conference we'll be giving away
Tuncer : a FREE copy of Marathon so stick around!
Tuncer :
Tuncer : OK, here we go!
Tuncer :
BungieCorp : hey guys, great to be here.
Sabotage : ?
LEW002 : ?
MaryT1021863 : Eighnt@!?
TimCarroll : ?
CWallner : ?
Peter A. : ?
PieterB : ?
BartF : Jason, tell us a smidge about yourself
CourtJ3 : ?
MaryT1021863 : ?
KEATS4 : ?
Todd fox : ?
BartF : before we get to questions.
ETrekker : ?
BartF : Yes, I am checking the queue :-)
BungieCorp : well I'm still a student here at the U of C as lots of people
know, trying to decide between career...
WozSteve : He can't get in 'cause it's limited to48 people.
NelsonT : ?
BungieCorp : and school. it's getting to be tough...
Ralphey : a
MaryT1021863 : How many are they giving away?
BungieCorp : especially with the recent success of bungie. i wasn't
expecting the company to take off like it did.
Lll333 : 1
MC QUWINKY : a
MaryT1021863 : 1, 2, 5?
A.Steele : Good luck all!
MaryT1021863 : Same here
PieterB : I keep getting messages that too many bob's died. Does this
matter?
BungieCorp : I started programming on the Apple ][ a long, long time ago
MaryT1021863 : QUIET ALL
Cconway : ?
BartF : shhh
BungieCorp : and have been doing games for years. It's great to finally
BungieCorp : be able to spend all my time doing it, instead of doing it
Boone : Do you own Bungie?
BungieCorp : between class or other jobs.
ETrekker : Please, follow protocol. Quiet, and to ask a question, type
?.
Boone : ?
Ralphey : ?
KEATS4 : ?
RonLFH49D : ?
Xtreme1 : ?
Tuncer : If you have a question, please type ? Please wait to be called
on by Bartf
Lll333 : ?
Doug Lier : ?
MaryT1021863 : ?
BungieCorp : I'd really love to answer these questions, I hate talking
BungieCorp : about myself all the time.
A.Steele : I gotta go-so make it quick
MC QUWINKY : ya right
TroyZarger : ?
Lll333 : ?
BartF : Ok go ahead
BungieCorp : do I call on people or does BartF?
BartF : this is ABotages turn
CourtJ3 : ?
MaryT1021863 : ?
MC QUWINKY : a
BartF : Sabotage
Lll333 : ?
LEW002 : in blastphime Q..on the demo...what do u got to do? ( u
know...when durandal kidnaps u)
Sabotage : Are you planning to have it over the modem? I heard about a
patcht that will allow ARA coming soon
Sabotage : or that will allow you to play it over ARA
BungieCorp : Sabotage: we are not planning to add any explicit modem
support
GFrey : hi
A.Steele : Please-I need to go soon!
GFrey : love the game
LEW002 : ?
LEW002 : ?
MC QUWINKY : a
BungieCorp : to Marathon, although it will soon work with ARA. early
versions of the game did work with ARA
KEATS4 : ?
Lll333 : ?
Boone : ?
BartF : Ok, Lew oo2
BungieCorp : but the feature didn't make it into the final release
MC QUWINKY : ?????????
Sabotage : I heard there was a bug with ara
BartF : Then Tim Carroll
BungieCorp : i'd expect to see a patch soon (in the next 2 weeks)
Ralphey : ?
PieterB : ?
BungieCorp : the patch will also include some other fixes, like for the
BungieCorp : quadra 630 acceleration bug.
RonLFH49D : I just found out today that I'm going to be the father of a
bouncin' baby boy in June! How about a fre
LEW002 : bart..do i have to type that ? again?
Lll333 : ?
BungieCorp : ga
PieterB : ?
BartF : No GO Lew
RonLFH49D : How about a free game to celebrate?
MC QUWINKY : ????
BartF : Go ahead Lew
Lll333 : What dose accelerated for Quadra 630 mean
Tuncer : Queue: TimCarroll, CWallner, Peter A., PieterB
MC QUWINKY : ????
LEW002 : in blastphime Q...on the demo...what do u have to do?>
GFrey : How are you deciding who gets the free game?
MC QUWINKY : you like me right so you
KEATS4 : ?
KEATS4 : ?
KEATS4 : ?
MC QUWINKY : 'll give me the game right??
BungieCorp : Lew, do you have a more specific question about the level?
PBGuru : ?
Sabotage : ?
LEW002 : ok...
BartF : Tim Carroll
MC QUWINKY : just kidding really how ?
Boone : ?
LEW002 : after you kill all the aliens....
BartF : Then C walmer
MC QUWINKY : ???]
BENGIR : ?
TimCarroll : The installer for Marathon was rather arcane, are you planning
KEATS4 : ?
RonLFH49D : Must sign off.. Good luck to all of your Bungie adventures!
MC QUWINKY : ?
Tuncer : Queue: CWallner, Peter A., PieterB, CourtJ3, MaryT1021863
LEW002 : ...how do you get out of the level
TimCarroll : on changing this? Everyone complains about this that I've
BungieCorp : on BQ in the demo after killing all the aliens there is a
TimCarroll : talked to
LEW002 : ?
FisherD : Howdy guys!
GFrey : I've got the demo, how do you get into the launching point
Sabotage : Is somebody transcripting this to upload later?
BungieCorp : door that opens in the area where you started the game
Ralphey : ?
GFrey : on the first level
BungieCorp : there is a terminal there that you should check out.
FisherD : Hi Woz
BungieCorp : TimCarroll: the original installer was indeed arcane
FisherD : !
LEW002 : cool...thanx
Halibut : ?
Boone : ?
BungieCorp : and that has been fixed in the latest copies we are sending
MC QUWINKY : ??
KEATS4 : ?
BungieCorp : out. only the first 4k or so had the bad installer.
MC QUWINKY : ????????
BungieCorp : next
TimCarroll : So it has been fixed! -- great! You still expecting to see
MaryT1021863 : What made you think of Pathways?
BartF : Queue, C Wallmer, Peter A PieterB, CourtJ
TimCarroll : new levels in April or so?
Lll333 : Do you like workin at bunge
MC QUWINKY : me
ETrekker : No one speak until called on!
FisherD : For whoever asked, all eWorld Live conferences are archived..
you can download them after the talk
BungieCorp : april or so, right
Sabotage : WHere can we get a fixed installler?
TimCarroll : Cool. I'm done
Timster : ?
Boone : How do you get into programming?
Lll333 : ?
Lll333 : ?
Saffron : Queue: CWallner, Peter A., PieterB, CourtJ3, MaryT1021863,
LEW002, Halibut, Boone, Mc QUICLEY, KEATS4
BungieCorp : who was next?
BartF : WE NEED TO HAVE ONLY THE PEOPLE CALLED ON TO TALK
Lll333 : ME
LTC : ?
BENGIR : Do you plan to do everything in your power to "kill" DOOM and
keep the Apple Spirit HIGH?
Sabotage : I had trouble copying the disk onto my hard drive
SweetFairy : Can you be bribed
MC QUWINKY : ??'
LEW002 : what saffron?
Tuncer : Saffron will now be doing the queue.
Boone : ?
Saffron : :) Be nice
MaryT1021863 : Get to the game giving
PBGuru : ?
Ralphey : ?
LTC : ?
Tuncer : GA CWallner
Boone : ??
CWallner : First, congrats on releasing a great game for the mac! There
are of course the unavoidable
Saffron : right
MC QUWINKY : How can you win the game?? on this
A.Steele : Gotta GO all-BYE
MC QUWINKY : chat
CWallner : to DOOM .
Lll333 : ?
Boone : ?
Lll333 : ?
Boone : ?
Lll333 : ?
LEW002 : i hope that what you advised me of works,bungie...thanx
BungieCorp : of course...
Boone : ?
CWallner : You have the networking down much batter..
Saffron : Queue: Peter A., PieterB, CourtJ3, MaryT1021863, LEW002,
Halibut, Boone, Mc QUICLEY, KEATS4
Lll333 : ?
MC QUWINKY : bungiecorp
BungieCorp : we spent a lot of time working on the networking, maybe even
CWallner : is htere gonna be alevel editor release,
MC QUWINKY : ??
BungieCorp : too much.
Peter A. : Are you planning to make any other Physics models??? I would
like to do some zero G stuff.
BungieCorp : Bungie will not be releasing a Marathon level editor in the
Boone : ?
CWallner : or is someone going to have to write one? ga
BungieCorp : near future, although I am working with several independent
Dsweet : ?
BungieCorp : programmers who are working on level editors.
MaryT1021863 : ?
Saffron : Boone, I see you
Boone : ?
MC QUWINKY : How can I ask a question about the game if I don'[t have it
Boone : OK
MaryT1021863 : ?
Lll333 : ?
Lll333 : ?
Peter A. : Cool, but when will they be out?
Lll333 : ?
CWallner : ok thanks! ga
BungieCorp : i hope we start to see basic editors in a month or so, and
MaryT1021863 : ?
Saffron : LII I see you
Saffron : GA PeiterB
Lll333 : When will you give Marathon away?
Cconway : Are any of the level editors available yet? Where do we find
them?
BungieCorp : maybe even a physics model editor in a few weeks.
BartF : Ok, Pieter B Go ahead
PieterB : Does it matter if too many BOB's die? Where do you get new
levels
BungieCorp : who's next? ya'll need to stop speaking out of turn.
Sabotage : <----Thinking maybe this should of been in the auditorium ;-)
Boone : ?
PieterB : i am
MC QUWINKY : Bngie
Tuncer : We'll be giving a few copies of Marathon away at the end of
this conference.
Saffron : Queue: CourtJ3, MaryT1021863, LEW002, Halibut, Boone, Mc
QUICLEY, KEATS4
Dsweet : ?
Saffron : me too sabotage!
Boone : How long is the conference?
BungieCorp : go CourtJ3
MC QUWINKY : how can I ask about a question about your game if I don't have
the game
MC QUWINKY : what's the point of the game
MC QUWINKY : how do you play it
LEW002 : tuncer what time r u going to give them away?
Ralphey : ?
CourtJ3 : WHat does it take to get started making games like Marathon?
Boone : ????????????
Tuncer : In about an hour
BungieCorp : CourtJ3 ... well, doing Pathways first helped a lot, because
BungieCorp : we learned a lot from that project. most of the networking
MC QUWINKY : Tuncer are you the one who's in charge here of the giveaway's
BungieCorp : know-how came from our previous game, Minotaur, which some of
SweetFairy : ?
BungieCorp : you may have seen.
PieterB : ?
BartF : Ok Court J go ahead
Lll333 : ?
PieterB : ?
LTC : ?
Ralphey : ?
BartF : oops
CourtJ3 : I did
MC QUWINKY : ??
BartF : Mary T
BoscoMan : Hi Steve!
BartF : Go ahead Mary T
BungieCorp : That's sort of a general question and I don't know how else
MaryT1021863 : Kill your Enemies, Kill your friends enemies, kill your
friends!!
Boone : If we win, how do we get it?
BungieCorp : to answer it; as with any creative project we built on our
BungieCorp : previous work...
BungieCorp : who's next?
MaryT1021863 : Nevermind
BartF : Go ahead Keats 4
Boone : ?
Nolen : Am I the only one who thought that the release version of
Marathon was supposed to have 40 levels?
BoscoMan : What's up everybody?
Lll333 : ?
KEC : no
Saffron : Queue: MaryT1021863, LEW002, Halibut, Boone, KEATS4, PB Guru,
Sabotage, BENGIR, Timster, LII333, LTC
SAmies : ?
KEATS4 : What kind of Programs did you use to program the gane?
BartF : Go ahead Todd Fox
Ralphey : ?
Dsweet : ?
Boone : ?
Boone : ?
BungieCorp : Marathon was written entirely in MPW C and assembly. We had
Boone : ?
Boone : ?
Todd fox : What is the situation with availability?
Boone : ?
BungieCorp : to write a lot of custom tools to create maps, edit the
BungieCorp : shapes, etc. Photoshop and Painter were used heavily in
BungieCorp : working with graphics, and some MIDI programs I'm not familiar
Lll333 : How much is it faster is it on a 110 MHZ than a 80mhz
BungieCorp : with to do the QuickTime music.
Boone : I can't wait to get the game.
Saffron : Queue: MaryT1021863, LEW002, Halibut, Boone, KEATS4, PB Guru,
Sabotage, BENGIR, Timster, LII333, LTC,
SezZ : Lets stick to protocol folks...
BungieCorp : next ...
Dsweet : ?
Saffron : GA Mary
Boone : ?
MC QUWINKY : ?
Saffron : ok, GA LEW
SAmies : ?
Boone : ?Please?
KEATS4 : ?
Ralphey : ?
LEW002 : move me back about 5 people ok?
SweetFairy : ?
Saffron : GA Halibut
Todd fox : Bungie: Every place I call is out of the game.
Halibut : Will it ever be possible to play multi-player games on the
non-network levels?
Halibut : Is it at all possible now?
BungieCorp : It's possible now, with a little hacking ... :)
BungieCorp : Seriously, it's a great idea that we're looking into.
Saffron : Queue: Boone, KEATS4, PB Guru, Sabotage, BENGIR, Timster,
LII333, LTC, Ralphey, DSweet
Lll333 : How do we do that>?
LStanford : ?
Halibut : Need to know the map format, huh?
BungieCorp : We ran out of time to keep working on the network game a few
NelsonT : ?
BungieCorp : months ago and that was one of the ideas we didn't have time
BungieCorp : to address. honestly, most of the solo levels would be boring
CourtJ3 : ?
BungieCorp : when played over a network, but a few would be pretty cool.
BungieCorp : I was hoping that someone else would write a hack for that
BartF : Go ahead Boone
Halibut : I'm looking forward to it
BungieCorp : and we wouldn't have to wait for Bungie's next official
release.
CM72 : i have a few ? for the man from bungie
MaryT1021863 : This costs alot!!!!
BungieCorp : next
SweetFairy : How many copies are you giving away?
Boone : What advice cdan you give to get into programming, Bungie?
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please have your question ready when it is your turn. :)
CM72 : ?!
Timster : !
BoscoMan : !
Boone : Please answer.
Sabotage : <------Knows how to get to the network levels without a
network.
SAmies : ?
Kerensky : !
BungieCorp : who was next?
Boone : Me
Saffron : Queue: KEATS4, PB Guru, Sabotage, BENGIR, Timster, LII333,
LTC, Ralphey, DSweet
Saffron : GA Keats
BartF : Boone already asked
MaryT1021863 : $12.00 per hour
Boone : What advice for programming?
Saffron : oh , yeah go Boone
CM72 : what bout me??
KEATS4 : What kind of programs would you sugest for beginning
programers?
Nolen : ?
CM72 : ???????
Boone : Hello?
SweetFairy : ?
BungieCorp : Boone, first I'd say that to be successful at programming you
SweetFairy : ?
BungieCorp : really have to be doing something you want to do. I love
MC QUWINKY : So Is your game at all like the game Myst??
BungieCorp : writing games, so it's easy, but if you treat it just like
BungieCorp : any other job it can get boring (I know plenty of people
BungieCorp : like that).
ETrekker : ? !
BungieCorp : Find a cool project, maybe a small one, and throw yourself
BungieCorp : into it if you're really interested in starting programming.
BungieCorp : (like, maybe a physics model editor ... )
Lll333 : ?
Boone : TYeah, but what programming software do I buy?
BungieCorp : i'd suggest metroworks to get started.
BungieCorp : next
SweetFairy : How man copies are you going to give away?
BarkerJr. : ?
Saffron : Queue: PB Guru, Sabotage, BENGIR, Timster, LII333, LTC,
Ralphey, DSweet, (and more ..)
MaryT1021863 : What's better, CodeWarrior or FutureBASIC
SAmies : ?
Halibut : ?
MC QUWINKY : Dude BungieCorp is your game at all like myst??
Boone : Thanks, Bungie.
BartF : Ok PB Guru
Lll333 : when is the drawing going to be?
PBGuru : I have two questions - first - grenade hopping, why did you
require that tactic?
CM72 : Saffron you keep forgetting me
CM72 : i have a ?
Teachin : Marathon is nothing like myst!!
BungieCorp : grenade hopping isn't required anywhere in the game as far
BungieCorp : as i know, except to get to some of the secret areas ... of
PBGuru : OK, so secret areas don't count towards flow of the game?
BungieCorp : course it's an essential tactic in network games for
invincible
BungieCorp : players ... :)
BartF : Go ahead Sabotage
Sabotage : How about putting out a network team level for the regular
game so you could go through the levels..
Ottoman Bill : ?
Teachin : I would just like to say that I play the hell out of your
demo!!
PBGuru : for example, there are areas of extra ammo or powerups that
you can't get to without hopping
Sabotage : so you can have someone at your back?
Teachin : I have a network of power pcs at a high school and it has
become a great hit among the students!!
CWallner : ?
PBGuru : Teachin - we're under protocol
Saffron : Queue: PB Guru, Sabotage, BENGIR, Timster, LII333, LTC,
Ralphey, DSweet, Todd FOx, SAmies
BungieCorp : Sabotage: like I said before, there were a lot of ideas we had
Teachin : what the hell is protocol??
SAmies : ?
Saffron : Don't forget PB
BungieCorp : for the network game that didn't make it into the final
BungieCorp : release ... better team play was one of them. hopefully
Lll333 : When is the drawing going to be
BungieCorp : you'll see something like you're talking about soon.
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
BartF : Sabotage next
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please have your question ready when it is your turn. :)
NelsonT : ??????
MC QUWINKY : a ?
PBGuru : My second question was kind of like Sabotage - team levels
where you are against the aliens
KEATS4 : ?
Saffron : GA PBGuru
LStanford : ?
Boone : !
PBGuru : Is that what you just answered?
BungieCorp : next
Lll333 : ?
BartF : Go ahead BENGIR
MaryT1021863 : ?
SweetFairy : What do we have to do to earn an oppertunity to win a free
game since this is my first forum?
Lll333 : ?
BungieCorp : There is a lot of room for improving team play, and we're
BungieCorp : looking into that. We spent a lot of time making the game
Lll333 : ?\
BungieCorp : fun to play head-to-head. Expect more detailed team play
Teachin : ?
BungieCorp : (and in general better player/player interactions) in the
Tuncer : We'll be giving away the prize in about a half hour! Stick
around.
BungieCorp : near future (but not as part of the original Marathon).
Saffron : Queue: BENGIR, Timster, LII333, LTC, Ralphey, DSweet, Todd
FOx, SAmies, Sweet Fairy, LStanford
KEATS4 : Are you planning on making a sequel to Marathon??
Saffron : NelsonT, CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallne
PBGuru : too bad, my reg card is on the way... done..
BartF : Go ahead BENGIR
Saffron : GA Bengir
KEATS4 : ?
BartF : GO ahead Timster
SweetFairy : Thanks alot!!
Timster : What game in the marketplace is your game similiar to if any?
BungieCorp : next
Sabotage : ?
MaryT1021863 : ?
KEATS4 : ?
Saffron : GA LII
BungieCorp : Timster: in the Mac marketplace I guess you could compare
Lll333 : When will you give Marathon away?
BungieCorp : Marathon to Wolf3d or Sensory Overload or Pathways, but it's
BungieCorp : really very different from all three of those games,
Nolen : Amen!
BartF : WE will give it away by a ramdom numbe r generator in abou t30
minuters
BungieCorp : especially with the detailed network play. I'd say Marathon
BungieCorp : was Pathways on steroids, and was written with full knowledge
Saffron : Queue: Timster, LII333, LTC, Ralphey, DSweet, Todd FOx,
SAmies,
Saffron : Sweet Fairy, LStanford, NelsonT, CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallner,
Teachin,
Saffron : Sabotage, MaryT1021863, KEATS4
BartF : GO ahead LTC
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Timster : Sounds great, thanks BungieCorp!
MC QUWINKY : Is your game at like myst i mean by the way the graphics are
displayed?
LTC : I'm a begining programer (13).All I know is Hypercard. How did
you start progaming. Any tips for me?
LTC : What software should I use?
BungieCorp : of what we did in pathways that people didn't like.
Nolen : ?
BungieCorp : LTC, I started back on the Apple ][ about ten years ago. I
BungieCorp : can't give you much advice except to stick at it and do
BungieCorp : whatever you think is cool. It takes a long time to really
BungieCorp : get good at this stuff.
BartF : GO ahead Ralphey
Ralphey : I heard that someone was coming out with a VR program to allow
games like Doom to be 3x as good as...
Ralphey : Marathon. Is this true?
Lll333 : ?
BungieCorp : I'd start with Metroworks if you're working on a Mac.
Saffron : Queue: Ralphey, DSweet, Todd FOx, SAmies, Sweet Fairy,
LStanford, NelsonT, CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallne
Saffron : Teachin, Sabotage, MaryT1021863, KEATS4, Nolen
LTC : ?
Lll333 : ?
BartF : GO ahead Dsweet
BungieCorp : Ralphey: hmmm ... a vague question; do you have anything
BungieCorp : more specific to ask about? I know nothing about what you're
ETrekker : ? ! (just
Dsweet : What is your personal view on software security?
Lll333 : ?
Dsweet : and the philosphy behind it?
BungieCorp : talking about.
Ralphey : I was told not to buy Marathon because of a revolutionary
program coming out
BungieCorp : Dsweet: software security as in copy protection or as in
BungieCorp : privacy?
Ralphey : Is this true?
MC QUWINKY : Ask the wizard of all games??
CourtJ3 : ?
BungieCorp : Ralphey, I haven't heard of any revolutionary 3D games coming
BungieCorp : out, especially on the mac. usually when you hear stuff like
Dsweet : Specifically, how do you you think it should be implemented.
MC QUWINKY : see ya stupid people thanks for answering all my questions
Lll333 : ?
BungieCorp : that, it's smoke (in my experience).
Saffron : Queue:Todd FOx, SAmies, Sweet Fairy, LStanford, NelsonT,
Saffron : CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallner,Teachin, Sabotage,
Saffron : MaryT1021863, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker
Ralphey : ok thank you
Lll333 : ?
Lll333 : Are you going to send it in the mail or by E-Mail?
Saffron : LII333, I see you, don't ask again
BungieCorp : DSweet: if you mean copy protection, I think you can guess my
BartF : Go ahead Todd Fox
John Burkey : Hey Guys
Todd fox : Is there a production problem at Bungie? No mail order place
has it in stock. I've waited a month.
BungieCorp : attitude toward it by looking at the copy-protection in
BungieCorp : Marathon: after typing in a serial number you never have to
John Burkey : Bungie is great
BungieCorp : do anything ever again.
Saffron : Queue:SAmies, Sweet Fairy, LStanford, NelsonT,
Saffron : CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallner,Teachin, Sabotage,
John Burkey : Bungie is great
Saffron : MaryT1021863, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3
BungieCorp : Thanks John
John Burkey : Everybody loves bungie
John Burkey : hows it going?
BartF : Jason, don't forget Todd
Peter A. : Amen
BungieCorp : Todd: we were overwhelmed by demand for Marathon, and have
Sabotage : What about privacy, bungie, I heard someone got in a little
trouble for letting the beta out
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please ha
BartF : :-)
Sabotage : to a few too many people?
BungieCorp : been rushing to find as many places as possible to build
Saffron : ve your question ready
CourtJ3 : Are there any new weapons in Marathon then in the demo?
BungieCorp : units as fast as they can. All I can say is that we're
BungieCorp : almost on top of the problem, and that it will almost
John Burkey : Congrats on the great product, dude.
BungieCorp : certainly be solved within the next two weeks. We'll also
BungieCorp : never let it happen again (or somebody will get fired!)
Boone : ?
Todd fox : Thanks.
BartF : Go Ahead MaryT
Tuncer : You're fired Jason ;-)
MaryT1021863 : When'd you think of the idea for: Sensory overload, Pathways,
Marathon, ect...[doom type games]?
BungieCorp : The unavailability of Marathon is really embarassing.
Nolen : Hey John, the product drawing will be chosen by *random*
number not by sucking up. :) <--
CWallner : Fire! Fire! Fire! (sorry)
Saffron : Did SAmies go?
Boone : ?
SAmies : Did recent speed advances in hardware alow you to manipulate
the 5 dimentional freedom?
BungieCorp : Mary, I have to admit that I first started working on
SAmies : How was this acheived? Texture on the fly has a Stunning
effect on Power macs.
FisherD : ?
BungieCorp : Pathways a few years ago because I was annoyed that nobody'd
BungieCorp : written one of those 3D texture mapped games for the Mac
Saffron : Queue:Sweet Fairy, LStanford, NelsonT, CM72, Ottoman
Saffron : Bill, CWallner,Teachin, Sabotage, MaryT1021863, KEATS4,
Saffron : Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3, Boone
BungieCorp : ... both Pathways and Marathon, however, I think have a lot
BungieCorp : of stuff you won't find in any other 3D game (especially the
BungieCorp : very flat ones like Wolf3d or Doom).
FLCochran : ?
Peter A. : ?
Boone : ?
MaryT1021863 : UN-Queue MaryT1021863
BartF : Go Ahead Keats4
MaryT1021863 : Thanks
BungieCorp : SAmies: yeah, Marathon rules on PowerMacs! Apple Rules!
KEATS4 : Are you planning on making a sequel to Marathon? (Like Doom 2)
Saffron : No, Sweet Fairy
BungieCorp : Motorola is great! Long live the apple, ibm, motorola
BungieCorp : trio!
Boone : ?
John Burkey : Bungie is great
SAmies : Texture on the fly has a Stunning effect on Power macs.
Any good secrets to look for?
BungieCorp : KEATS4: I can't talk about unannounced products (and neither
BungieCorp : can our PR people anymore ... ) but I think you can
BungieCorp : answer your own question if you think hard enough about it.
KEATS4 : Thanks
John Burkey : THE BULLS ARE KICKING ORLANDO BUTT- I THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW
MaryT1021863 : When do we do the raffle?!?
John Burkey : Bye now everybody- once again GREAT PRODUCT
Boone : T-20 min
BartF : Go ahead Sweet Fairy
SweetFairy : Right on John Burkey
Saffron : Folks, please try not to talk unless you are asking a question
(and you have been called on)
Boone : ?
BungieCorp : yeah, john, stifle it about the bulls :)
John Burkey : Bye Saffron
Saffron : Boone, I see you
BungieCorp : SweetFairy?
Saffron : Queue: LStanford, NelsonT, CM72, Ottoman
Saffron : Bill, CWallner,Teachin, Sabotage, MaryT1021863, KEATS4,
Saffron : Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD,
FLCochran, Peter A
SweetFairy : Nevermind
BungieCorp : ok, next
BartF : Go Ahead Lstanford
LStanford : Is there any hack that will allow different aliens in the
network levels?
BungieCorp : Right now there isn't, but one of the things I hope people
MaryT1021863 : UN-Queue MaryT1021863!!!!!
BungieCorp : start working on is some way to change the number and type
BungieCorp : of monsters and items in the network game. The physics model
BungieCorp : editors will go a long way toward making the network game
LEW002 : I'm back....
Saffron : Queue: NelsonT, CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallner,Teachin,
Saffron : Sabotage, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
Saffron : Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A
BungieCorp : more interesting (by changing gravity, projectile types,
Halibut : ?
LEW002 : this room is big time overfilled
BungieCorp : speeds, damage, etc.) but being able to change the frequency
BungieCorp : of items and monsters would be really cool.
LStanford : Hulks in the arenas would kick butt...
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead nelson T
NelsonT : I'm still NOT getting background music,w/ all QT extensions on
(PPC) w/ 5100K, any ideas to help?
BungieCorp : are you using the demo or the release version of the game?
Saffron : Queue: CM72, Ottoman Bill, CWallner,Teachin,
Saffron : Sabotage, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
Saffron : Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut
BungieCorp : the demo had some problems which were fixed ... the best i
Nolen : Turn on VM.
LEW002 : ?
NelsonT : Got the game at MacWorl in SF.
Sabotage : Did you turn background sound on Nelson?
BungieCorp : can say is make sure you have the musical instruments file,
BungieCorp : give it more memory and if it still doesn't work call doug...
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go Ahead CM72
CM72 : i have 3 questions......1 why havent you visited the forum on
AOL.and 2 why all the mess near release
CM72 : time and 3 when will the ARA patch be released?
KEATS4 : What the heck is all this talk about network games?!?!
Saffron : Queue: Ottoman Bill, CWallner,Teachin,
Saffron : Sabotage, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
Saffron : Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002
BungieCorp : 1. well, we've been busy. believe it or not, we're so
BungieCorp : understaffed that I'm personally answering mail on AOL right
BungieCorp : now until we can get someone to do PR.
BungieCorp : 2. what do you mean, "mess" ? marathon as a product had a
CM72 : i LOVE marathon by the way
BungieCorp : long history of being delayed, rewritten and improved because
BungieCorp : we didn't want to release a product we thought didn't kick
BungieCorp : ass, and I hope we were successful.
CM72 : well by mess i mean there are alot of angry people about the
credit card charging thing
BungieCorp : 3. the ARA patch will be done soon (I've already fixed the
Jamain : You were.
MaryT1021863 : *Boo*
BungieCorp : Quadra 630 problem, and the ARA is next). A few weeks.
BungieCorp : It'll be available everywhere once it's done.
BungieCorp : whew. who's next?
CM72 : kewl
BartF : Go Ahead Ottoman BIll
Ottoman Bill : Just curious:what is "grenade hopping?" & is there any secret
places/things you can share?
Saffron : Queue: Ottoman Bill, CWallner,Teachin,
Saffron : Sabotage, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
Ottoman Bill : (_Love_ the demo)
Saffron : Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002
Boone : If we win, how will the game be delivered?
BungieCorp : "grenade hopping" is what people have named the technique
Ottoman Bill : Last: any good places here in Chicago to get it?
BungieCorp : which involves pointing down at the ground, running forward
Ottoman Bill :
BungieCorp : and shooting grenades at your feet. the effect is that you
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please have your question ready when it is your turn. :)
BungieCorp : can "jump" up on ledges. this is not required anywhere in the
MaryT1021863 : When do we do the raffle?!? It's 11:00 where I am!!
BungieCorp : game, except to get to secret areas, but it does come in
CM72 : Whispering (I happen to love missle launcher flying)
BungieCorp : handy a few times. I won't say much about the hidden areas,
Tuncer : 15 MINS till give away!
BungieCorp : except that you can find all the weapons a few levels ahead
BungieCorp : of the time if you look close enough (there's a really cool
Saffron : Queue: CWallner,Teachin, Sabotage, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333,
Saffron : LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter
Saffron : A, Halibut, LEW 002
BungieCorp : secret room on the last level, ignie ferroque).
BungieCorp : next ...
BartF : Go Ahead CWallner
CWallner : 3 quick questions: First: Who kicked who's butt at the
Marathon tourney at Macworld? ...
Nolen : I hated that level!
CWallner : Second: Did you play?
BungieCorp : The winner of the Macworld tournament was me, of course.
Saffron : LOL
BungieCorp : Just kidding, I don't know the guy that won, but he was
Tuncer : hehe!
CWallner : Third: Can you make the films availalble here on EWorld?
BungieCorp : pretty good. After the tournament was over we played a game
BungieCorp : with the top two contestants, myself and two other people
BungieCorp : from Bungie. The bungie guys, of course, won. I'm looking
BungieCorp : forward to seeing how good people get by Boston Macworld,
BungieCorp : where we'll have another tournament. Yes, the films will be
BungieCorp : coming soon, we haven't had the time to unpack after the show
Boone : ?
BungieCorp : (been busy answering email, fax, phone, etc ... )
BungieCorp : next
BartF : GO Ahead Teachin
Teachin : First, I'd like to say your game is does indeed kick ass!!!
CWallner : Great thanks Jason!
Teachin : Second, is your game going to have a VR helmet option?
BungieCorp : (thanks, teachin)
BungieCorp : Marathon works with VictorMaxx's CyberMaxx helmet, which is
BungieCorp : still in the prototype stage for the Mac. When it is
BungieCorp : officially release (the Cybermaxx, that is) we'll release a
Ichabod : So would that VR helmet plug in to the ADB port? :)
BungieCorp : patch to make sure Marathon works with it. We were demoing
BungieCorp : the CyberMaxx at Boston Macworld last August.
Teachin : how much would that set me back?? The one I saw was 700 bones.
Saffron : Queue: Sabotage, KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A,
Saffron : Halibut, LEW 002
BungieCorp : The Cybermaxx retails for around $700, but like I said it
BungieCorp : isn't done yet .. they're working on the ADB interface.
BungieCorp : next
BartF : GO ahead Sabotage :-)
Teachin : cool, THANKS!!
Boone : ?
BartF : Go Ahead Sabotage
Saffron : Boone, for the last time, I SEE YOU
Sabotage : Did finals in college get in the way of putting marathon out?
BartF : Go ahead Keats4
BartF : Hold on Keats
SezZ : *** Feel free to use your "Ignore" button to turn off any
annoying attendee. ***
Sabotage : SOrry one on one got me :-(
BungieCorp : Not really, I was able to plan ahead so finals were easy. I'm
BungieCorp : not taking a full load, of course ... honestly I really didn't
BungieCorp : even slow down on Marathon, I just got a whole lot less sleep.
Sabotage : also where can you find the flame thrower in the full version
BungieCorp : I'm glad that's all over now. :)
Sabotage : and Missle launcher?
BungieCorp : The flamethrower appears several places in the full version,
Saffron : Queue: KEATS4, Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
BungieCorp : I think you can find it first on "Smells like Napalm,
Saffron : Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002
Boone : What do you study in college?
BungieCorp : Tastes Like Chicken" in a secret room ... It isn't until the
Sabotage : IS it hidden?
BungieCorp : alien ship levels that you're given it outright.
BungieCorp : yes, it is hidden on SLNTLC.
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Keats4
CWallner : (methinks Jason is a big B&B fan)
KEATS4 : What's with all the talk about network games?!?! I don't
have the game.
Nolen : GET IT! GET IT! GET IT!
BungieCorp : CWallner, don't make me come over there and ... oh ..
Saffron : LOL
FisherD : ROFL
BungieCorp : KEATS4: well, everybody is talking about the net game because
Saffron : Queue: Nolen, LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3,
Saffron : Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002
CWallner : Hmm heh hmm hmm heh
BungieCorp : you get to see bodies explode and slide across the floor.
BungieCorp : check it out.
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Nolen
KEATS4 : Cooool!
FisherD : Yes! Death!
Nolen : I want to start by saying that I work at a little known
risc-powered computer company...
Tuncer : Net Marathon is too cool! Get it!
Boone : T-7 min.
Nolen : Marathon on PowerMacs on Ethernet RULES!
Nolen : But my question...
Nolen : Finished the game last night. Will new levels really be
available in March or is X-mas more realistic
Saffron : The question queue is now closed
FisherD : Nolen... wait tile FIREWIRE!!!
Nolen : Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
BungieCorp : Now that we've got all the tools done and a good team
Saffron : Queue: LI333, LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD,
FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002
MaryT1021863 : Copycat, Boone!
BungieCorp : together, I think we'll be done long before christmas. i
don't
BungieCorp : know where you heard march, though ..
BungieCorp : next
BartF : go ahead LII333
Lll333 : Is marathon much faster on a 110Mhz than on a 80MHZ
Nolen : The brochure that comes in the package says march.
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle in 5 min!!
Saffron : Queue: LTC, ETrekker, CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD, FLCochran,
Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002
Lll333 : Cause I have 80
BungieCorp : uhh ... yeah, 110<80 ... is that a trick question?
Phfor : Hello all...
BungieCorp : actually we found that having a cache card (for PowerPCs)
Lll333 : Cute
CM72 : LOL Phor
BungieCorp : made more difference than raw clock speed.
CM72 : nice name
FisherD : *Laughinh*
BungieCorp : next
BartF : go ahead LTC
CM72 : aw s'pht
LTC : You said use Metroworks. Where can I get it, how much does it
cost and exactly is it what is it??
BungieCorp : You spelled pfhor wrong, dude
Lll333 : Thanks
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle in 4 min!!
FisherD : (kicking myself for spelling such a simple word wrong)
BungieCorp : you should be able to get metrowerks mail order for cheap
BungieCorp : next
BartF : GO Ahead ETrekker
ETrekker : I heard that Marathon used code from the IBM version.Is there
such a thing, and did take code from it?
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle in 3 min!!
Boone : Nevermind.
Nolen : Yeah, right!3
TimCarroll : ?
Sabotage : <-------Pulling out grenade launcher and aiming at Phofor ;-)
Boone : Un queq me, or whatever.
Sabotage : Phofor=phfor
ETrekker : hello?
Saffron : Queue: ETrekker, CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A,
Halibut, LEW 002
Boone : 2:57 and counting
Saffron : GA ET
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle in 2 min!!
CM72 : i love bungies sense of humor when titleing the levels
CWallner : (Metroworks Codewarrior Gold is $399 from MacWarehouse)
BartF : can you ask again Etrekker?
Boone : Much better than id's
Saffron : The queue is now reopened :)
ETrekker : I heard that Marathon used code from the IBM version.Is there
such a thing, and did take code from it?
Boone : Why?
Saffron : Queue: CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut,
LEW 002, TimCarroll
BarkerJr. : ?
BungieCorp : there is no PC version of marathon.
BungieCorp : (so no, we didn't use any code from it)
BungieCorp : next
Sabotage : <------Found the instruction book to make me laugh
Timster : ?
BartF : Go ahead Courtj3
Jamain : Thank god!
Lll333 : Yes
Todd fox : ?
SAmies : Yesss
Sabotage : <------Hopes there never is a PC version of marathon
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle in one min!!
Tuncer : Las question before the drawing!!!!
Saffron : Queue: CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut,
LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Timster
Lll333 : PCS Suck
KEATS4 : IT'S TIME!!!!!!!!
CourtJ3 : Are there any different weapons in Marathon then in the demo?
Jamain : I'll buy five copies, just don't give it to them.
CM72 : *never wanna see marathon ported over to PC .......it would be
disgraceful*
BartF : Let's finish this question :-)
BungieCorp : (I'm getting messages really slowly over here, ETrekker,
sorry)
Saffron : Queue: CourtJ3, Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A,
Saffron : Halibut, LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox
ETrekker : No problem. Thanks, Bungie!
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle!!
BartF : yep
Lll333 : Yeha
Sabotage : Let's hear the questions first....
DooHickey : Yea
FisherD : Thanks, Saffron
Saffron : Queue: Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A,
Saffron : Halibut, LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox
BungieCorp : CourtJ3: most of the weapons were in the demo, but a few were
Timster : Yea
Boone : What is your major in college?
A Burke : Let's finish the giveaway - and then all of these annoying
people will leave!
MaryT1021863 : Time for the raffle!!
Saffron : LOL, good idea
BungieCorp : sort of hard to find unless you were playing net.
BungieCorp : next
Ottoman Bill : Good call, A Burke!
Tuncer : At the end of the half hour, we'll give out another one. Then
the conference will be over.
CourtJ3 : <---bowing humbly
Sabotage : LOL tim
MaryT1021863 : \\roll
BartF : WOW! ANOTHER GIVEAWAY!
Tuncer : Next question!!!
CWallner : Um, like does that add up to 69? Huh huh huh huh
ETrekker : Well, may as well stay.
Ottoman Bill : Oh no! More annoying hangers around! : )
PBGuru : ?
Cconway : ?
Saffron : Queue: Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A,
LEW002 : i say we all kill court..LOL
Saffron : Halibut, LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox
OnlineHost : JasonWhong rolled 2 6-sided dice: 6 5
Ralphey : sorry guys to late for me. Been a pleasure Thank you
SAmies : ?
PBGuru : Thanks for coming guys!
CourtJ3 : <----is arming himself with pies for protection
BartF : GO Ahead Fisher D
FisherD : ::::SPLAT::::
SezZ : Can we disqualify people who constantly interupt the
conversation?
BungieCorp : so who's next?
Saffron : Queue: Boone, FisherD, FLCochran, Peter A,
FisherD : sorry, I've got to wipe off that whip cream...
FisherD : done.
Saffron : Halibut, LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox
FisherD : ALRIGHTY! MY TURN!!!
Saffron : Folks, feel free to use the Ignore feature
Saffron : just click Who's Here and select the name of the person you
want to ignore.
FisherD : In the Demo and the real version of Marathon, there is an
option to accelerate the game
FisherD : for a Quadra 630. I've got a 630... what kind of acceleration
does it provide,
FisherD : and how do you do it?
LStanford : bye Jason - congrats on the best game I've ever played on any
computer system!
BungieCorp : thanks lstanford
Tuncer : Boone here?
BungieCorp : cut out the instant messages already!!!
Boone : Yes.
FisherD : Do you use the new video buffer chip?
BungieCorp : fisherd: the quadra 630 and similar models have double-
Tuncer : Your question please!
FisherD : clock speeds for the cpu.. i know
BungieCorp : buffered video hardware, and support hardware pixel-
Boone : What is your major?
Lll333 : Bungie my Role did not work
BungieCorp : doubling. the demo supports these modes, and lets you run
BungieCorp : in 16bit low-res faster than 8bit low-res on an 840AV.
BungieCorp : pretty cool. unfortunately this didn't work in the release
FisherD : uh... English please?
TimCarroll : Bungie, send a 1/1 to the address $im_off and you'll stop
getting 1/1s -- gotta have something in the
BungieCorp : version and is being fixed. the patch will be released soon.
TimCarroll : message -- it can't be blank
SweetFairy : ?
BungieCorp : yes, we use the valkyrie chip.
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Boone asked your Major Jason :-)
FisherD : cool!
Saffron : Queue: FLCochran, Peter A, Halibut, LEW 002,
Saffron : TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox, PBGuru,Cconway, SAmies,
Saffron : Sweet Fairy
SweetFairy : What are the system requirements for Marathon?
Saffron : no no, not yet Sweet
Lll333 : Is there going to be another Drawing?
CourtJ3 : ! I got stuck for hours just looking at some of the effects on
like walls and stuff
Ken Erfourth : ?
Saffron : GA FLCochran
BungieCorp : FisherD: in english "the Quadra 630 rules if you write
Tuncer : Yes, another drawying in 25 mins
BungieCorp : directly to it's video hardware).
FisherD : *Cheer*
Boone : Tuncer?My Question?
BungieCorp : (sorry, i'm getting these messages really slow)
Tuncer : Nevermind
BungieCorp : my major is classics (ancient med.)
Tuncer : Jason, you can turn off your one on one's if you like
Saffron : Did FLC go?
Boone : What is your major, jason?
Tuncer : Go to Membership, then Prefs
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Peter A
Peter A. : Will Marathon ever be playable over the Internet?
Saffron : Thanks Bart
Boone : I'll be back!
Saffron : Queue: Halibut, LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox,
Saffron : PBGuru,Cconway, SAmies,Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth
Phfor : Hey Freak! I was wondering if you would be here, or if we
would miss another appointment (like macworl
OnlineHost : FisherD rolled 0 6-sided dice:
BungieCorp : Bungie is not planning to add internet support in the near
BungieCorp : future, and since the game is nearly unplayable (from what I
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please have your question ready when it is your turn. :)
CourtJ3 : Well everyone it's getting late so I'm going to sign off so
long congrats on the best game made jason!
BungieCorp : hear) over IPRemote, things don't look good. Anybody want
BungieCorp : to do the coding?
BungieCorp : later CourtJ3, have fun with Marathon.
BungieCorp : next
CWallner : Jeez, I miss Boone already!
BartF : GO ahead Halibut
Halibut : a couple questions...and a comment
Halibut : You suprise me with your support for writing hacks for
Marathon. Do you have any interesting...
FisherD : Well, AppleTalk is only 9600.... direct 144.. hmm.... a
challenge! get out the C books!
Halibut : hacks that you might want to upload somewhere soon?
Saffron : Queue: LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox,
Saffron : PBGuru,Cconway, SAmies,Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth
BungieCorp : go nuts, fisherD!
BungieCorp : We don't have to hack things, Halibut, we've got the source
Neglous7 : I miss the drawing didn't I?
CELLARDWELLE : Anybody got a real good backgammon game?
BungieCorp : code! (and no, i'm not planning on uploading it, heh) ...
BungieCorp : There's so many cool things we didn't have time to do to
CM72 : ?
JonathonW : I WANT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!
BungieCorp : Marathon, I just hope somebody else gets around to it while
BungieCorp : we move on to pursue other projects.
LADY HAWK : hi all
ChasScott : ?
JonathonW : I WANT A GAME!!!!!!!
Halibut : Will the Macworld in Boston tourney be with the CyberMaxx?
(I'll be there anyway)
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead LEW 002
BungieCorp : Halibut: if you played with the CyberMaxx you'd not only
Peter A. : ?
LEW002 : 1st i'd like to say i personally like marathon better than
Doom AND wolf3D....and it does "kick ass"
BungieCorp : vomit immediately after the game, you would have also gotten
LADY HAWK : HELP ME
BungieCorp : creamed. the technology is cool, but it still has a long
LADY HAWK : DOES ANYONE HAVE LABRNTH OF TIME
BungieCorp : way to go.
Saffron : Queue: LEW 002, TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox, PBGuru,
Neglous7 : I think you guys should make a program that will let you make
your own levels??
Saffron : Cconway, SAmies,Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth, CM72, ChasScott
Lll333 : How long til drawing?
Halibut : Oh well :(
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please have your question ready when it i
LEW002 : 2nd..r u coming out w/a sequel to marathon? and if so can i
get the demo?
Yo EAC : ((Friendly Reminder)) If you have your caps lock key on, you
may want to turn it off.
Yo EAC : All caps is the equivalent of shouting!! Thanks :-)
BungieCorp : LEW002, I've already answered the sequel question once by
BungieCorp : saying that Bungie isn't talking about unannounced produts,
LADY HAWK : ? how do i get in on the drawing
Saffron : Queue: TimCarroll, BarkerJr, Todd fox, PBGuru,
LEW002 : i wasn't here
BungieCorp : and if the past is any guide to the future, we may not even
Saffron : Cconway, SAmies,Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth, CM72, ChasScott
BungieCorp : talk much about our announced products from now on!
Lll333 : ?
BungieCorp : (no problem) next
BartF : Go ahead Tim Carroll
LADY HAWK : ?
TimCarroll : Are there any plans on producing a "full screen version" that
Saffron : LADY HAWK, we are using protocol
TimCarroll : has any of the displays on it? I love the full screen, but
TimCarroll : it is too easy to get sandbagged by other network players.
TimCarroll : All that is really needed is a transparent HUD that shows
TimCarroll : the motion detector.... Either that, or make the screen
TimCarroll : larger for us 17" monitor owners. :-)
TimCarroll : Maybe something for us 17" monitor owners. :-)
Neglous7 : I think a level maker would be the great!
TimCarroll : Any plans to update the networking code to use open transport?
BungieCorp : full screen was obviously not as well thought out as it could
TimCarroll : done
BungieCorp : have been, and of course we'd all like to have a HUD which
JonathonW : how do i get in
LEW002 : hey gavy!!!!isn't it passed your bedtime?
LEW002 : LOL
BungieCorp : displayed the motion sensor, energy, oxygen, ammunition, etc.
LADY HAWK : ?
BungieCorp : I think you'll see that in our next game, but I wouldn't
BungieCorp : expect to see it in Marathon.
Saffron : Queue: BarkerJr, Todd fox, PBGuru, Cconway, SAmies,
Saffron : Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth, CM72, ChasScott, LADY HAWK
TimCarroll : Bummer. :-(
BungieCorp : and like you said, it'd be great if the game took advantage
Lll333 : ?
BungieCorp : of big monitors, but there aren't that many of you guys.
TSamson : ?
BungieCorp : but isn't that "choose monitor..." button in the prefs slick?
BungieCorp : next
Sabotage : Why can'
BartF : Go Ahead Barker Jr
Phfor : So what's the food like at the Medici? (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
Neglous7 : I think you should have a add-on for marathon that give you a
laser sight.
BarkerJr. : (1) I'm having trouble getting a hold of Marathon; can I order
direct from you guys at Bungie? Please?
Saffron : Queue: BarkerJr, Todd fox, PBGuru, Cconway, SAmies,
Saffron : Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth, CM72, ChasScott, Lll333, LADY HAWK
BungieCorp : you may order directly from us, but you'll get it sooner
LEW002 : neglous...that would be excellent!!!!
BungieCorp : mail-order (like macwarehouse).
BarkerJr. : and (2) where are you going to school? I'm in med school in
Dallas, myself.
Hoofb : ?
Phfor : I got this thing off the internet called Vulcan. How do I use
it?
BarkerJr. : And how do I order from you?
BungieCorp : I'm going to school at the University of Chicago (yeah,
BungieCorp : the freezing cold hell in the middle of a slum).
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Todd Fox
Saffron : Queue: Todd fox, PBGuru, Cconway, SAmies, Sweet Fairy,
Todd fox : Given the shared experience here, can you give us one big
secret(not who killed Kennedy) for the game?
Saffron : Ken Erfourth, CM72, ChasScott, Lll333, LADY HAWK, TSamson
Peter A. : ?
BungieCorp : ok, you talked me into it. on the last level (which should
Zulay : Hello!
BungieCorp : be spelled "Ignie Ferroque") there are three secret doors
BungieCorp : behind each of the three teleporters at the end of the maze.
BungieCorp : open these doors, and expore well. you'll find another
Tuncer : Phfor, where did you get this Vulcan?
Neglous7 : Are you going to have any adds ons for Marathon???
BungieCorp : door and a teleporter beyond it .... make sure you're ready
Doug Lier : ?
BungieCorp : to die when you step through the teleporter. :)
BungieCorp : next
Saffron : Reminder: we are using Protocol.
Todd fox : Thanks!!
BungieCorp : and shut up about vulcan already!
Saffron : If you have a question type a ?, a comment type an !.
Saffron : Please have your question ready when it is your turn. :)
LEW002 : well later jason...have fun w/making new games!!! ps(send me
some of them..LOL)
BungieCorp : (heh)
Tuncer : hehe
BungieCorp : next
BartF : GO ahead PB guru
Phfor : heh
Saffron : Queue: PBGuru, Cconway, SAmies, Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth,
Saffron : CM72, ChasScott, Lll333, LADY HAWK, TSamson, Peter A., Doug
Lier
Doug Lier : are the 'bobs' of any importance?
Zulay : Where's LADY HAWK?
Neglous7 : Is a laser sight for Marathon possible?
BungieCorp : of course bobs are important. think of them as blockers.
BungieCorp :
Tuncer : BTW everyone, Phfor (Ryan Martell) was also involved in the
production of Marathon. Say hi to Ryan!
CWallner : All bobs must die. It is imperetive.
BungieCorp : waiting for PB guru ...
Saffron : Neglous, we are using protocol
ItsGavyC : Heya Ryan!
BungieCorp : yeah guys, start sending all those annoying one-on-one
BungieCorp : messages to ryan instead of me!!! :)
Saffron : LOL
ChrisSuley : Hi Pfhor! Did you write the "Choose Monitor..." window?
Saffron : Chris, we are using protocol
BungieCorp : no way, the choose monitor button is way to cool to have been
BungieCorp : written by ryan. :)
BungieCorp : ok who was next?
BartF : Go Ahead Cconway
Cconway : Are any of the level editors available yet? Where do we find
them? Will Bungie release it's tools?
BungieCorp : Bungie will not release it's tools.
BungieCorp : Bungie will not release its tools.
BungieCorp : In fact, bungie won't release its tools.
Sabotage : Who had the button at Macworld that said, it's not my fault
BungieCorp : I double we'll ever release our tools.
Phfor : You speaking in riddles, boy?
BungieCorp : ... hopefully someone else is working hard on a level
BungieCorp : editor and will release it soon. I'm working with a couple
BungieCorp : people over email on physics editors, but at least one person
BungieCorp : is working hard on a map editor. if you know any programmers
BungieCorp : willing to throw away the next few months of their lives and
BungieCorp : fail out of school, have them email me. my address is
BungieCorp : somewhere in the resource fork of marathon, and i'll be more
ETrekker : ? (if possible!)
BungieCorp : than happy to help anyone serious about working on a map
BungieCorp : editor.
Tuncer : We'll be giving away another prize in 10 mins and then calling
it a nite.
Saffron : Queue: SAmies, Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth, CM72,
Saffron : ChasScott, Lll333, LADY HAWK, TSamson, Peter A., Doug Lier,
ETrekker
Saffron : The question queue is now closed
BungieCorp : C'mon Tuncer, this is so much fun!!! next
BartF : go ahead SAmies
SAmies : Any luck on any planetside exploration in the future?
panoramic outside view would be intense.
BungieCorp : no kidding. we've got plans. i was working on exactly that
BungieCorp : this morning.
BungieCorp : next
Tuncer : Right Jason, it's past your bed time ;-)
BartF : Go ahead Sweet Fairy
Boone : How long till the next giveaway?
SweetFairy : What are the system requirements for Marathon?
Saffron : Queue: Sweet Fairy, Ken Erfourth, CM72, ChasScott,
Saffron : Lll333, LADY HAWK, TSamson, Peter A., Doug Lier, ETrekker
BungieCorp : SweetFairy, i have no idea. i mean i forgot. i deny
BungieCorp : everything ... something like 3.5meg, 020 or higher, system
BungieCorp : 6.0.5 or higher ...
BungieCorp : next
Doug Lier : when will the game be shipped to Canadian stores?
CWallner : PowerPC 620...
BartF : Go ahead Ken Erfourth
Ken Erfourth : Will Bungie license Marathon engine to other game makers?
Ken Erfourth : Heretic is an excellent game made using DOOM code. I would
like to see the same thing with Marathon.
Hoofb : ?
BungieCorp : Ken, I can't talk about that right now, but I will tell you
Boone : ?
BungieCorp : that plenty of people have been asking ...
Saffron : Sorry Hoofb, the question queue is closed
BoscoMan : anybody have the 7th Guest?
BungieCorp : next
Boone : When is the next giveaway?
BartF : Go ahead CM72
CM72 : i have talked to the author of the marathon cheat programs (in
fact i uploaded the release cheater on
CM72 : AOL ) why did you keep changing the saved game formats.....the
egg man was a little annoyed.
CM72 : also will your next venture be a CD based game?and i loved
your comment in the "Text" resource
BungieCorp : well, i have to admit that the first thing that ocurrs to me
Boone : T-6 min?
BungieCorp : when i change the saved game format is not "gee, will this
Saffron : Queue: ChasScott, Lll333, LADY HAWK, TSamson, Peter A., Doug
Lier, ETrekker
BungieCorp : break all the cheaters out there?" ... sorry man.
CM72 : no prob
BungieCorp : marathon should be out on CD soon, and all our products from
BungieCorp : now on will be shipping on CD and disk.
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Chasscott
ChasScott : I'm having trouble with Pathways 2.0/PPC. I've detailed it in
the Bungie support section.
Neglous7 : You should have a gun in Marathon the is a Pistol, but full
auto. Like a Glock 18, is this posible??
Boone : ?
Boone : ?
Boone : ?
Saffron : Queue: Lll333, LADY HAWK, TSamson, Peter A., Doug Lier,
ETrekker
BungieCorp : ChasScott, I haven't seen your message and I'd bet that
ChasScott : Could you please check this out in the next few days. Love
both games, BTB.
Saffron : Boone, the question queue is close, please stop scrolling
BungieCorp : no one else here at Bungie has had the time during the last
Boone : Sorry.
BungieCorp : few days. we're doing the best we can to get back up and
BungieCorp : running. sorry!
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead LII333
Lll333 : When will the next drawing be And mine did not work last time
Saffron : Queue: LADY HAWK, TSamson, Peter A., Doug Lier, ETrekker
Saffron : I'll tell LII via 1/1
ChasScott : Not vital to national security. Thanks for the games, they're
driving me crazy.
FisherD : LII333: type in the box: "//roll"
BungieCorp : sorry Lll333 ... next
BartF : Gp ahead LADY HAWK (and thanks for waiting)
LADY HAWK : and when is marathon coming here or are you going to make an
online game and when if so
FisherD : then it will give you something like this:
OnlineHost : FisherD rolled 2 6-sided dice: 4 2
Saffron : Queue: TSamson, Peter A., Doug Lier, ETrekker
OnlineHost : Neglous7 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 1
BungieCorp : the online services have been really slow in providing games
LADY HAWK : also if i can make a commet does anyone have labrnth of time
Tuncer : NOT yet people
BungieCorp : developers with APIs so that they can move their games online.
BungieCorp : as soon as we get the information from eWorld, AOL, etc.,
BungieCorp : we'll be all over it. Until then ...
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Tsamson
TSamson : If the game was written to use an FPU, would there be any
improvments in the speed or physics model?
Tuncer : TWO MORE question until the next drawing
BungieCorp : TSamson, I doubt it, and it would make it difficult to port
Saffron : Queue: Peter A., Doug Lier, ETrekker
BungieCorp : to machines with poor FPU performance. we've been tempted
BungieCorp : to write FPU code on the PowerPC because of its blazing
BungieCorp : speed, but have so far been able to resist ...
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go ahead Peter A
BoscoMan : ?
Nolen : Resistance is futile!
Peter A. : What is the Modem speed requirement for Marathon to run smooth
over ARA???
Phfor : Heh.
Saffron : Queue: Doug Lier, ETrekker
BungieCorp : We haven't done a lot of ARA testing (obviously, sheepish
BungieCorp : grin) but I'd imagine that anything faster than 14.4k would
BungieCorp : work great. We'll probably release some performance notes
BungieCorp : with the patch in a few weeks.
BungieCorp : next
BartF : Go Ahead Doug Lier
Doug Lier : will the game ever be shipped to canadian stores?and will the
game work with RAMDoubler?
Saffron : Queue: ETrekker
BungieCorp : We are shipping to Canada (or will be shipping to Canada soon)
BungieCorp : I'm not aware of the specific problems with RAMDoubler, except
BungieCorp : that a lot of people have been reporting conflicts. We'll
BungieCorp : probably have more information soon, and will make it
BungieCorp : available on-line.
Tuncer : Bungie just loves RAMDoubler ;-)
BungieCorp : I'd just like to say, again, that I know we're behind on
BungieCorp : Marathon shipments and we're getting units out the door as
BungieCorp : fast as we possibly can. A bunch of us even went to the
BungieCorp : warehouse before christmas and built boxes by hand to get as
BungieCorp : many copies of the game out as possible before the holidays.
Saffron : awww, dedication :)
BungieCorp : one last question?
BartF : Go ahead ETrekker
BungieCorp : (isn't it touching?)
ETrekker : You said there would be a CD marathon. Any enhanced graphics
or sound? Any previews?
Nolen : Should I be concerned if I didn't get a box with my order?
Saffron : LOL
BartF :
FisherD : Awwww
ChrisSuley : My Marathon box was touched by the dudes themselves!
BungieCorp : initially the CD version will be a duplicate of the disk
BungieCorp : version, but I'd eventually love to see 16-bit source art on
BungieCorp : the CD version (hmmm...)
Tuncer : hmm...
BungieCorp : Nolen, no don't be concerned that you didn't get a box. We
BungieCorp : shipped a bunch of flat packs (no boxes) to MacWarehouse
Nolen : and MacZone?.
BungieCorp : before Christmas because we decided it would be better to
BungieCorp : send them 1k flat packs than 100 with boxes. I hope
ETrekker : I did mean previews of coming atractions on the CD. Any
comments?
Yo EAC : and MacWorld Expo too.
BungieCorp : everyone agrees (same thing for Macworld SF) ... I'm just
ChasScott : I got one. You are absolutely right.
BungieCorp : sorry we didn't include a note to that effect in the package,
BungieCorp : as I think a lot of people would have liked to be given a
BungieCorp : reason for not getting a box.
BungieCorp : wow. is the carnage finally over?
FisherD : Save the trees!
BartF : Yep
BungieCorp : any more questions?
BartF : Nope
BungieCorp : death to bob!
BartF : GIVEAWAY TIME
Tuncer : OK, here's how we're going to give away the prize. When I say
GO, type //roll. ONLY ONCE!
CWallner : Yep, thanks Jason!
BungieCorp : bye ya'll!
FisherD : Whats the answer to live, the universe, and everything?
ChasScott : You can't play a box.
Phfor : Later!
SAmies : Peace Jason
Tuncer : Remember, only once!!!!
A Burke : bye, thanks!
BartF : take a practice roll now if you want
Tuncer : Thanks for coming Jason!
Saffron : Thanks so much Jason! )()()()()()()()()( YAY)()()()()()(
Tuncer : I'll have to buy you some ribs ;-)
ChrisSuley : Bye, Bungie guys! Thanks for Marathon!
FisherD : YEAH RIGHT JASON!!!
Saffron : LOL Tim
Super Suzy : LOL Tim
Lll333 : Was that IT
ItsGavyC : LOL, Tim
Yo EAC : Don't laugh at Tim, it encourages him. *Laughing*
Smilin Pig : Later Bungie....great stuff!!
ETrekker : Well, thanks Bungie, for a great game (as soon as I can get
it!)
BungieCorp : you owe me ribs, Tuncer!
Inside Games : there they go!
Jamain : He rolled twice...
CM72 : AOL RULEZ!
Halibut : four times...
LTC : TELESOFT ROLLED TWICE!!!!!!!!
Tuncer : Definately Jay
FisherD : We should roll again!
Neglous7 : I know I wouldn't win!!! I never win anything!!!
LADY HAWK : hey he rolled more than once
ItsGavyC : Now now, children.
ETrekker : HOLD EVERYTHING!!!
LADY HAWK : i should win
FisherD : MUTINY!!!
Saffron : LOL Neg
Jamain : lol
Nolen : thanks, Jason. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peter A. : He did roll twice!!!!!
FisherD : LOL guys, cool it!
Kerensky : who really won?
Phfor : Later guys....
HardyMacia : ?? Did I have to sign up to get in the drawing?
Nolen : *Cheer*
Inside Games : oh no....
CWallner : Hey Jason, we at work are also having a great time w/Minotaur!
You guys kick butt in the network dept!
Telesoft : please explain this strange practice
Halliwell : I could buy the game for all the time rolling.
Nolen : Bungie: Whatsa matter? Can't you get a copy?
Tuncer : Lady Hawk, please e-mail me your address!
ItsGavyC : Yea Lady !!
Sabotage : *Cheer* lady hawk.
BungieCorp : great to hear people are still playing minotaur
CM72 : this is lamer haven.........goin back to AOL
BungieCorp : maybe one day we'll get around to rev-ing it.
Telesoft : way to go lady hawk
ChasScott : *Tim's Clunk*
ETrekker : Thanks Tuncer. Good job all the organizers keeping order!
FisherD : *DOH*
Jamain : Hope so, we used to play Minotaur at lunch all the time.
Nolen : * MacPuke INIT º*
LADY HAWK : hey just out of curiosty does anyone have labrnthy of time
Telesoft : oh well
CWallner : I agree, an update is warrated, but the game is a classic.
Peter A. : Do we get to ask Jason more questions?
Yo EAC : ***Thanks all - Great conference (although too chaotic) Have
fun and keep those AKs blazing :-)
Jamain : Minotaur, in a Marathon type setting...whatcha think?
Tuncer : If Jason stick around, sure
Saffron : LOL Yo
Yo EAC : Bye all
ErikF : LOL Halliwell, we'll be getting 60000 from Apple link
JonathonW : bye all
CM72 : AOL RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ChasScott : Marathon in a Minotaur type setting
Neglous7 : Is it all over now????
ETrekker : Good job to Bungie, Tuncer, and Saffron, the organizers of
this chaos!
BoscoMan : Bye everyone, I'm not leaving yet though
LADY HAWK : hey tuncer what name do i email
Halliwell : LadyHawk is square but not Fair.
Saffron : LOL, you are welcome
Halibut : Goodbye, great game once again, keep 'em coming, and thanks!
Peter A. : Jason, will you stick around?
FisherD : Hey, GOD left!
Todd fox : Bungie: which mail order place has in-stock marathon
BungieCorp : sure ask some more questions; i'll be here for a while longer.
BungieCorp : if we've still got 30+ people in here it's going to be carnage
BungieCorp : though ..
Saffron : LOL, he did
ETrekker : Good night, everyone! Star Trek: Voyager in 6 days!
BungieCorp : I think everyplace is still backordered on Marathon, but
FisherD : :::BANG::: :::I'VE BEEN SHOT:::
Inside Games : what do you think of on-line services?
HardyMacia : Can someone please tell me how your contest work so next time
I will know how?
CM72 : will there be a transcriptof this confer
BungieCorp : some places are getting stock sooner than others.
OnlineHost : Neglous7 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 4 6
Gavriel : Jason, would you care to answer any questions about the
Marathon graphics engine?
CWallner : So like Jason, who do you tink would win in a fight between
Axl and Geraldo? :)
Todd fox : like?
Neglous7 : I just wanted to see what I would get.
Saffron : I spoke with MacZone today and they said Jan 20th
OnlineHost : FisherD rolled 10 6-sided dice: 2 1 5 6 6 3 5 4 2 1
BungieCorp : AXL COULD KICK GERALDOS BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ChasScott : If a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody there to
hear it, does anybody care?
BungieCorp : MacZone never knows what they're talking about
Saffron : LOL!!
Jamain : Jason, are you aware on the PPC firing a weapon stops motion.
Or is it just my PPC?
BungieCorp : (neither do any of the other places, for that matter)
Saffron : when do you think Jason?
Telesoft : stop that lady hawk
BungieCorp : Jamain, try setting your PowerMac to 1 or 2 channel sound,
Telesoft : :)
Kernel : But L7 could kick both without sweating...
BungieCorp : and turn off stereo output if you have it on.
Saffron : LOL Kernel
Jamain : Ok, thanks...will try.
FisherD : (learning this dang thing)
Peter A. : I have noticed that Marathon has not TRUE bridges. Was it a
big priority for you to make bridges in
Peter A. : Marathon.
BungieCorp : obviously it wasn't if marathon doesn't have any
BungieCorp : no, we're doing that for next time.
Gavriel : Jason, do you build a BSP tree to represent the static
structures in the Map (ie: walls)?
BungieCorp : Marathon doesn't use BSP trees.
ItsGavyC : Nononon.
BungieCorp : BSP trees suck, because they remind me of other stuff
BungieCorp : that sucks.
ChrisSuley : What's your favorite tactic on Mars Needs Women? I'd bet it's
not skulking in The Coffin.
Saffron : Bye gang! Thanks for coming.!
BungieCorp : no, I run around and spank people Chris. Never stop
BungieCorp : running, never stop firing.
ItsGavyC : Wowzers, how DO you people do this?
Gavriel : Are you using a scan-line algorithm, perhaps?
CWallner : Check out the Beavis and Butt-Head web page at
http://calvin.hsc.colorado.edu!
CWallner : (shameless plug)
BungieCorp : Gavriel: (what?)
Kerensky : Later!
SAmies : Peace out all must go play Marathon for the gazzalionth time.
Peter A. : Hey Jason!!! Thanks for a great game.
BungieCorp : no problem peter. always aim for their feet. :)
Hoofb : Three Qestions: 1) Are you the only programmer on the team?
2) How many total rewrites to the engine
Neglous7 : Bye everyone.
Peter A. : I do.
CM72 : hey bungiecorp.........how DID the background music wind up in
the (FOrk?)
SAmies : Die Alien Pfhor scum!!!!!!!!!!
BungieCorp : shoot first, ask questions while reloading.
Hoofb : were there and 3) Did you use the Metroworks optimizer options
in the release and do they help?
Jamain : Or a nearby wall.
BungieCorp : hoofb: no i'm not the only programmer; the engine went through
Peter A. : Did you save some replays from Mac World??
Gavriel : For the renderer. You draw everything scanline by scanline,
taking advantage of coherence
Sabotage : Well All I am going to take off and go play some marathon,
Talk to you all later =-j
BungieCorp : three full rewrites
Gavriel : of polygon Z values between scanlines.
BungieCorp : we didn't use metrowerks but i plan on checking out their
Peter A. : Did you save some replays from Mac World??
BungieCorp : new global optimizer when i get it in the next few days.
Gavriel : Or are you using a straight Z-buffer perhaps?
BungieCorp : gavriel: polygons are drawn in scanline order, but they are
BungieCorp : drawn as polygons.
BungieCorp : we don't do any special scanline voodoo.
BungieCorp : z-buffering is very, very slow. we don't use it.
BungieCorp : anything else?
Nolen : Yeah, Bunge-meister...
Gavriel : How do you do the lighting effects?
Peter A. : Did you save any Mac World replays???
Sabotage : When are the macworld movies going to be uploaded?
BungieCorp : yes we saved the macworld replays, peter, they'll be
BungieCorp : available soon.
BungieCorp : gavriel: a light level is assigned to each polygon surface
BungieCorp : and never changes during the game
Hoofb : Does the program Manipulate bitmaps or does it render each
frame.
Sabotage : How about adding bombs in Marathon?
Nolen : Didja notice that the panning seems to shift
disproportionately near the edges of the viewable area?
BungieCorp : each frame is rendered independently of all previous frames.
Gavriel : Does that represent the reflectance of the polygon, or some
absolute light value?
Jamain : Shield regenerators would be neat in the net levels...
BungieCorp : nolen: that's the way the perspective projection works with
BungieCorp : the parameters we are using.
BungieCorp : jamain: shield refuels work in the net levels, we just
Nolen : So, it's intentional, then?
BungieCorp : didn't add any ... sounds like a job for somebody ...
Nolen : Have you ever seen a body lying in a pool suspended off of an
edge? Neat-o visual.
Sabotage : How about time bombs for those aliens chasing after you?
BungieCorp : gavriel: absolute light value.
BungieCorp : nolen: never, what do you mEAN!!?!? THE RENDERER HAS NO
BungieCorp : BUGS!!!!!!!!!!!! blasphemer!!
Jamain : lol
Peter A. : What gave you the idea for exploding BOB's?
BungieCorp : sabotage: no bombs. too annoying. too much like mines in
BungieCorp : bolo.
Gavriel : Then you just mess with the palette when the light level
changes?
BungieCorp : peter: well, we hate bobs and couldn't think of anything more
BungieCorp : fun than having them get their guts scooped out by the
Nolen : Right. And Microsoft products are original creations from the
ground up that ship on time. :*)
BungieCorp : aliens and packed with dynamite and sent back to the marathon
BungieCorp : on a kamakazi mission.
BungieCorp : cool, huh?
Jamain : <-- has killed all 'bobs' on sight since Habe Quiddam
Inside Games : do the "Bobs" in marathon reflect the "Bob" of Microsoft?
BungieCorp : actually, i think we were really tired.
BungieCorp : hehehe ... actually i think the downfall of microsoft will
Sabotage : WHat's wrong with bolo, it was the next best network game
after FA/18 until Marathon came?
Jamain : ROFL!!!
BungieCorp : result from their choice of name for "microsoft bob". ....
Nolen : Exploding bobs was a cute touch. Not like I don't waste 'em
all anyway.
Hoofb : It was not enough to do a shoot-em-up game you had to design
gory deaths too. What an Imagination!!
BungieCorp : who could take that seriously after playing marathon? :)
FisherD : Inside: Of course not! The represent BOB from MACINTOSH
BASICS!!!!
Inside Games : or did Microsoft rip you guys off, too?
Nolen : What about Bob?
BungieCorp : sabotage: bolo rules, i was just saying the mines get
BungieCorp : irritating after a while.
BungieCorp : what about bob?
Peter A. : and BOB's don't?
ChrisSuley : What format are the alien and gun images stored in?
Nolen : Inside: Someone's been reading Mac Week.
BungieCorp : chris, email me if you want shape formats. (not here, on
BungieCorp : the internet)
ZooMStonE : did i misss the give away???/
ChrisSuley : -nod- Coolness. Gotta have Barney-Bobs.
Inside Games : hehe...actually, I'm afraid to admit that my name is a form of
"Bob"!!!!!
Sabotage : Do bob's have any importance at all, I know there are some
leveles that claim I should save them but..
Jamain : I'm surprised none of the MacWorld reports to date have said
anything about the tourney.
Sabotage : then at the end it says too many are killed if I saved them
all would it make any difference?
BungieCorp : leela harshes on you if you kill too many, but other than
Sabotage : than if I just shot them all?
BungieCorp : that there is no actual effect on the outcome of the game.
BungieCorp : sigh.
Gavriel : If you represent the light values as absolutes for each
polygon, how do you handle muzzle-flash?
Inside Games : <---hasn't heard much about this macworld...anyhting good?
BungieCorp : where's your humanity?
Sabotage : COol.... Off ot kill bob's
BungieCorp : gavriel: by being extremely clever.
Gavriel : ??
BungieCorp : gavriel: actually, it's just a natural extension of the light
ChrisSuley : Left it on the Leonardo when I got to the Marathon.
BungieCorp : the player naturally casts (with a decay back to normal)
Hoofb : Does BOB stand for anything? If not were they named after a
real person?
Peter A. : Born On Board.
BungieCorp : bob stands for "born on board'
Jamain : IG-> seems they liked the ZIP drive and the PaperPort
Peter A. : I'm Right.
BungieCorp : although we only invented that in retrospect.
Tuncer : Jay, I think Bob should get a raise ;-)
BungieCorp : Bob doesn't work hard enough. He's always getting in my
BungieCorp : way and saying stuff.
BungieCorp : wow .. down to 19 people.
ChrisSuley : Is Bob's scream actually Doug?
Tuncer : Bob should be answering some of those Tech calls :-)
BungieCorp : bob is doug. doug is bob.
Peter A. : "Thank God it's you"
BungieCorp : be one with bob.
Jamain : lol
Peter A. : -Bob from Marathon.
Sabotage : So just pull out the SSM launcher and invincibility, that
should get him out of your way Bungie =-j
Inside Games : what's the deal with the "Tuncer Mirage Effect"?
Hoofb : I thought it was named after a irritating customer
Tuncer : Yea, I'd like to here that one
FisherD : Bob should be the guy you send to call 1-800-SOS-APPLE when
you have programming difficulty!!
BungieCorp : teleporting objects cause the tuncer mirage effect.
BungieCorp : watch somebody teleport in a net game
FisherD : YOU'D NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN!!!!!
ErikF : What is a tuncer mirage effect?
Jamain : he's telling us
Gavriel : Is the light the player casts handled in the same way
room-lights are handled?
Inside Games : heh heh
Semiosis : Hello people.
ErikF : Hi
Hoofb : How about a movie deal. Bungie could one up TRON!
Semiosis : What game are we talking about??
ErikF : LOL!
BungieCorp : gavriel: no, it's based on distance from the viewer.
ErikF : Marathon
BungieCorp : ambient lighting is all static.
Jamain : Is there any other?
Sabotage : <<<<>>>>> running for door....Waves as explosion
go's off =-j
Peter A. : Bye, Keep working on Marathon Jason; hopefully we will get a
sequel.
BungieCorp : (actually it's not all static, some of it changes, but it
BungieCorp : doesn't depend on the viewer is what i'm saying)
Jamain : It's all I've seen for lunch for a month
BungieCorp : later peter.
Semiosis : Is this the 7:00 Marathon game meeting that was scheduled??
Gavriel : Do you have to recompute distances between the player and
every visible polygon every frame?
Inside Games : yup
ErikF : Wow.
Tuncer : Yup, but you're two hours late ;-)
Semiosis : Can I have a free game???
BungieCorp : gavriel: yes; between the player and each scan line, actually.
BungieCorp : semiosis: uh, like, no.
BungieCorp : (heh) ... i mean, you missed the giveaway
Semiosis : Who won the free game?
FisherD : We all know you have more than 2 copies to give away....
Gavriel : Can't the light level change across the scanline?
BungieCorp : some guy pretending to be a chick.
FisherD : :-D
Jamain : I got mine on xmas eve...kept telling the kids all I wanted
was Marathon and it actually showed up.
Semiosis : Right on Fisher.
Jamain : Thanks for whatever effort go it here.
BungieCorp : gavriel: yes, but not horizontally across a floor scanline
Semiosis : We need more free games. Promotion, you know>
Tuncer : Someone else
BungieCorp : or vertically across a wall scanline
Hoofb : How about some stats. How big is the company? How Many
Programmers? Are you payed well?
Semiosis : Please, I'll be a dedicated fan?
ChrisSuley : If you have to be given the game, you're not dedicated. ;)
Inside Games : there's a bunch to be said about dedication
BungieCorp : the company is small. less than seven people. three
Jamain : Get rich on just this Mac release..just so you won't be
tempted to put it on a Wintel
Semiosis : I'll go to the store tomorrow and purchase your other game?
Kernel : Sorry, only dedicated heat pumps need apply.
ChrisSuley : Less than seven? Like 6.8 or so?
BungieCorp : programmers. i get paid well.
Tuncer : Dude, you get paid? No way
BungieCorp : pretty cool, huh?
Inside Games : any advice for another small company soon to release its 1st
commercial product?
Tuncer : Thought you did this for fun :-)
Hoofb : What compiler did you use? Any Assembly in Marathon? Did you
enjoy your vacation?
BungieCorp : we only started paying people last month. they think it's
BungieCorp : pretty cool.
Jamain : lol
BungieCorp : marathon is all mpw c and 68k/ppc assembly.
Semiosis : InsideG, I have a lot of ideas!!!!!!!
BungieCorp : my vacation was cool, but i want to go somewhere warm again
BungieCorp : soon. chicago is freezing.
FisherD : You mean Windows 95 or the city or BOTH??? BOTH, I think.
Semiosis : Hello???
BungieCorp : IG: self publishing is the way to go. advice is only that
BungieCorp : the process will suck, almost certainly, for a long time.
BungieCorp : stick with it.
ErikF : BungieCorp, you aren't gonna make it for PC right?
ChrisSuley : "Never pre-announce."
BungieCorp : FisherD: heh. the city.
JonWolfe : excuse the interruption, where can I find a walk-through for
King's Quest Seven? BTW, sucks, don't it?
Inside Games : oooppssss
FisherD : (thats a plead if i ever saw one)
BungieCorp : Chris, are you insinuating something?
BungieCorp : heh
Tuncer : And don't forget to say "Two Weeks" to everything
FisherD : never insinueate something you can't incinerate.
Semiosis : Gotta go. See you all later.
Gavriel : Sure it can. If your facing a corner, you should have two
polygons per scanline (ignoring the floors)
ChrisSuley : You guys are the first major game released with a lot of
hoopla on the net and online services.
BungieCorp : hey tuncer shuttup!!!!!
Hoofb : It must be tuff debugging a program like this. Must be very
timing dependent.
ChrisSuley : Everyone after you will have an easier time.
BungieCorp : gavriel: multiple polygons per scan-line, you are correct.
BungieCorp : i meant the light doesn't change over one scanline from one
Gavriel : Across the scanline the z distance grows towards the center of
the corner, and recedes along the other
BungieCorp : polygon
Kernel : timing...no, it's the spiders again! Get 'm off me!!!
Inside Games : how valuable would you deem having an online presense is for
such a company? did you get anything
Inside Games : positive from being on aol and eworld?
BungieCorp : IG: yeah. very important.
BungieCorp : gavriel: remember, walls use vertical scanlines, not horiz.
BungieCorp : chris: why?
Gavriel : ??
FisherD : BungieCorp: send an IM to $IM_ON with the text "on"
Jamain : There's 4100 messages on AOL in the Bungie area.
BungieCorp : AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! the spiders are BACK!!!!!!! Gaehrr!R!
JonWolfe : HEY YOU! What's up with this crap? I ask a very simple
question, and nobody can answer?
ChrisSuley : People weren't used to having quick access to the company and
insiders like Tuncer.
BungieCorp : Jamain: cool.
ChrisSuley : They went nuts, as I'm sure you noticed.
FisherD : Look in ZIFFNET archives, Jon.
FisherD : go shortcut Ziff
BungieCorp : chris: yeah.
JonWolfe : thanks!
Jamain : Tuncer helped alot...least when he showed up and said
something everyone calmed down a bit. :)
BungieCorp : the big bungie event at the boston macworld show this year
BungieCorp : will be the burning of doug at the stake for crimes against
BungieCorp : our user base. "two weeks" he'll shout, as he toasts in the
BungieCorp : flames. heh heh.
BungieCorp : ok, ok, not.
ErikF : LOL
Tuncer : hehe! I like that
BungieCorp : but we will have a tournament.
Jamain : lol
Tuncer : Fire! Fire!
FisherD : *Laughing*
FisherD : *LOL*
ErikF : Bungie, were you at the MW booth?
BungieCorp : fire fire fire fire cool fire fire fire
FisherD : oops, thats * LOL*
Jamain : Or..'it'll be here Monday or Tuesday....; but what week?
BungieCorp : erikf, i was personally, yes. this is jason
ChrisSuley : What was cool about the Macworld tournament was that it was on
6100s and 7100s.
FisherD : HEH HEH, YEAH, FIRE, COOL, HEH HEH
FisherD : Now that he's gone, I don't even think he'll find it there...
I love doing that.
BungieCorp : chris: + ethernet
ErikF : :-) Great. I was there, great booth. The setup was great
too. Man the last couple days, those guys
ErikF : were really good!
Inside Games : who won the MW tourney?
ChrisSuley : Is there anything in the game, besides the installer, that
isn't optimized?
BungieCorp : erik: and really tired.
BungieCorp : heh heh heh.
Hoofb : Jason: What was the main computer you programed on? (From
start to finish)
BungieCorp : no. we spent a lot of time on the game, and then punted
BungieCorp : on the installer. sort of stupid, huh?
ErikF : LOL, ya, but it was great.
ErikF : No, makes perfect sense to me Jason!
Jamain : Installer wasn't that bad...just wierd.
Tuncer : Yea, that installer sure did suck
BungieCorp : hoofb: 840av, pb 540c.
Tuncer : (rubbing it in)
Tuncer : Sorry J.
BungieCorp : the installer sucked rocks.
BungieCorp : it wasn't even an installer, it was a compact pro self-
Jamain : It worked at least...
ChrisSuley : But you use the installer, what, once? Twice maybe?
Tuncer : Has it been changed?
BungieCorp : extracting archive. very stupid. alex almost got fired for
BungieCorp : that one.
Inside Games : i bet the pb 540c really helped coding (in the bathroom,
bedroom, driving to work, etc), right?
BungieCorp : chrissuley: but it's kinda like putting a really, really,
BungieCorp : hard puzzle right at the beginning of the game. a lot of
BungieCorp : people just didn't get it.
Hoofb : At least the installer works.
BungieCorp : actually i rewrote the entire rendering engine over a week
BungieCorp : outside during the summer on the 540c. scared the hell out
Gavriel : Do you transform all the verticies of every polygon each
frame, or are you doing something funcky to
FisherD : congrats!
BungieCorp : of everybody when i didn't show up at work for a week.
Gavriel : save time with that?
ChrisSuley : Yeah, I suppose that's true. You want the first thing people
see to be impressive.
BungieCorp : graviel: every vertex every frame; we actually didn't even
BungieCorp : get clever enough to only transform shared vertices once.
BungieCorp : it didn't seem to matter.
Jamain : Best of luck Jason...you guys deserve all the success you can
grab out of this one. Nite all!
BungieCorp : later jamain.
Inside Games : i have no problems coding...it's just the copy protection and
installation schemes that screw me up!
Inside Games : i sympathize
ChrisSuley : What would be cool is multiple viewpoints. Like a 'bot
floating above and behind you.
Kernel : Any inside reports from apple as to when QT 2.0 will be native
(for music, obviously...)?
BungieCorp : apple is working on the native sound manager.
BungieCorp : chris: yeah, arbitrary view replays would be cool. hmmm...
ChrisSuley : Hmm, could you derive a different viewpoint from what was
stored in a film file?
BungieCorp : i'm going to split in a few minutes ..
Hoofb : Jason: What was the reason for not including multiplayer
gaming in the Game itself. (not the net level
Telesoft : Jason, how old are ya?
BungieCorp : chris: yeah, easy, i'd just have to code it.
ChrisSuley : Or I could. :)
BungieCorp : telesoft: i'm five; be six in feb.
Gavriel : Did you have to use assembly to get the texture mapping and
blitting code going fast enought?
Inside Games : in dog years???
BungieCorp : IG: heh heh.
BungieCorp : gavriel: yeah. it's pretty easy to find the assembly if you
BungieCorp : poke around in resedit..... "gee, THAT didn't come from a
Kernel : I bet you have IM volumes older than that! ;)
Telesoft : wow, I'm glad you're not sarcastic!
BungieCorp : compiler".... look for unrolled loops.
Tuncer : Hey J, I'm outta here. Thanks again for coming, I'll call you
tomorrow about the Making of...
BungieCorp : telesoft: me too. i'm 23.
Gavriel : You guys didn't leave the MacsBug names in the code 8-( Not
like hornet. 8-)
Tuncer : Ribs are on me ;-)
KenDuncan : Jason: Congratulations on a great game!
BungieCorp : tuncer!!!!!!!!!!!!:: don't leave me with these people!!!!!
FisherD : heh heh
BungieCorp : gavriel: uhhh ... because i'd sooner die than leave macsbug
FisherD : CARNAGE!!!
BungieCorp : symbols in my code.
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