Marathon 2 demo is out!
From: Dan Ryrlen <dan@carmen.se> 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: 45lb6k$ash@carmen.carmen.se#1/1
organization: Carmen Systems AB
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

Hi!

Check out
http://www.bungie.com
It's up.

Dan





Re: Marathon 2 demo is out!
From: russotto@wanda.pond.com 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: 45lva2$dpl@wanda.pond.com#1/1
organization: FishNet
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

In article <45lb6k$ash@carmen.carmen.se>, Dan Ryrlen  <dan@carmen.se> wrote:
}Hi!
}
}Check out
}http://www.bungie.com
}It's up.

And the T1 screams, as systems everywhere quit their normal work and
turn their packets to Bungie...

It's almost as if the network had an intelligence of its own....


-- 
Matthew T. Russotto      russotto@pond.com     russotto@his.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue."





800 bytes a sec for m2 demo? BLAH
From: norwood@lanl.gov (Zach) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: 45lbt1$nbq@newshost.lanl.gov#1/1
organization: LANL
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

Is there something wrong with there server or what... damn. I have 28.8
and I still could only get 800 bytes a sec so i quit before I ended up
paying 32 bucks to download the demo.

If someone could upload it to some other site please mail the site to
me so I could download it at 28.8 rates rather than 2400!





Re: Did Marathon 2 fall off of the face of the earth?
From: gmiller@iu.net (Garner R. Miller) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: gmiller-1310951553130001@netport-8.iu.net#1/1
organization: F.I.T. Aviation, Inc.
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action,alt.games.marathon

In article <45logr$4rs@shellx.best.com>, glenn gutierrez
<glenn@crworld.com> wrote:

 > >Time to get this discussion back on its original track. Bungie's
 > >sites are open for business.
 > 
 > AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Aaaaah, indeed!

I'm downloading the Marathon 2 Demo as I write this... Anarchie's getting
me a whopping 539 bytes/sec, and projects completion at 11pm Eastern at
the current rate.  (That's 7 more hours.)

Hopefully things will quiet own over the next few days so it'll be easier
for folks to get.  At this point, I don't think a T-3 could handle the
demand that site's getting!  <grin>

-- 
Garner R. Miller, Flight Instructor
Palm Bay, Florida  =USA=

"Microsoft Works" is an oxymoron.





Re: Did Marathon 2 fall off of the face of the earth?
From: brymen@indirect.com (Bryan Mendoza) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: brymen-1310951432180001@slip168.indirect.com#1/1
organization: N.O.Y.F.B.
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action,alt.games.marathon

In article <gmiller-1310951553130001@netport-8.iu.net>, gmiller@iu.net
(Garner R. Miller) wrote:

> In article <45logr$4rs@shellx.best.com>, glenn gutierrez
> <glenn@crworld.com> wrote:
> 
>  > >Time to get this discussion back on its original track. Bungie's
>  > >sites are open for business.
>  > 
>  > AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
> 
> Aaaaah, indeed!
> 
> I'm downloading the Marathon 2 Demo as I write this... Anarchie's getting
> me a whopping 539 bytes/sec, and projects completion at 11pm Eastern at
> the current rate.  (That's 7 more hours.)
> 
> Hopefully things will quiet own over the next few days so it'll be easier
> for folks to get.  At this point, I don't think a T-3 could handle the
> demand that site's getting!  <grin>
> 
> -- 
> Garner R. Miller, Flight Instructor
> Palm Bay, Florida  =USA=
> 
> "Microsoft Works" is an oxymoron.

Youre right, a T3 couldnt handle it.  We (ManNBlack and I) spent all night
FTPing it directly to our shell accounts. He had a T3 and a T1 going at it
as a backup line and I had it going to my T1 server. It took over 7 hours
and maybe 8, I dont know how long he stayed up.  It should have taken 30
minutes max.

They weren't prepared for the load they got.

-- 
Bryan Mendoza
http://www.indirect.com/www/brymen/MarathonII.html - Better than Sliced Bread!





Re: Did Marathon 2 fall off of the face of the earth?
From: errera@ese.ogi.edu (Claude Errera) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: errera-1310951608070001@wmj2.ese.ogi.edu#1/1
organization: Oregon Graduate Institute
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action,alt.games.marathon

In article <brymen-1310951432180001@slip168.indirect.com>,
brymen@indirect.com (Bryan Mendoza) wrote:

:Youre right, a T3 couldnt handle it.  We (ManNBlack and I) spent all night
:FTPing it directly to our shell accounts. He had a T3 and a T1 going at it
:as a backup line and I had it going to my T1 server. It took over 7 hours
:and maybe 8, I dont know how long he stayed up.  It should have taken 30
:minutes max.

Hmm, I started the download at about 1 o'clock pacific time, backgrounded
the job, and went to bed. It was done by 4... Not great (about 1.5k/sec
over our T1), but tolerable.

:They weren't prepared for the load they got.

This is certainly true. ;)

-- 
Claude                             http://www.ese.ogi.edu/errera.html
errera@ese.ogi.edu                        ftp://wmj.ese.ogi.edu//pub/
                      "Own what you do."





Re: Did Marathon 2 fall off of the face of the earth?
From: ericd@ra.nilenet.com (Eric A. Drumbor) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: ericd-1310951324050001@slip3.nilenet.com#1/1
organization: BW Software
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action,alt.games.marathon

In article <lcg-1310951127090001@abyss.cs.duke.edu>, lcg@cs.duke.edu
(Lyman C. Green, Jr.) wrote:

[snip]

> No shit.
> I am on an OC3 to the internet and I started it this morning at like
> 8:30.  As of 2 minutes ago (11:26 am) I had ONLY 4MB.  That's worse than a
> 14.4 modem!
> So I canceled it.  I'm going to try it again.  We'll see.  If there is
> ANYONE with it out there, let us know.


     I've placed two versions on my ftp site, which can be accessed via my
web page:

"http://www.nilenet.com/~ericd".  

     I ftp'd them from AMUG.  Just so you know, I haven't had a chance to
check them yet.  So, if you've heard of any problems with the two demos
uploaded to the incoming directory of AMUG's ftp site, please let me know
and I'll find better copies.  Eventually I'll download them to my Mac and
de-binhex them, then re-upload them.

     BTW, this is only temporary, I'll be paying extra for this storage so
I doubt I'll have these up more than a week....then they get axed :-)

-- 
"Don't you blow your nose at me Mister!"
Eric A. Drumbor      
Programmer/Lifetime Physics student
ericd@ra.nilenet.com                 <http://www.nilenet.com/~ericd/>
BW Software





M2 Demo at AMUG, too...
From: errera@ese.ogi.edu (Claude Errera) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: errera-1310951006330001@wmj2.ese.ogi.edu#1/1
organization: Oregon Graduate Institute
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action,alt.games.marathon

For all you folks having trouble getting through to Bungie's 
ftp site, the two higher-res versions are in /incoming at 
amug, as well. (No, I didn't put 'em there... I wouldn't be 
silly enough to download *two* versions off Bungie's way-overworked
server. ;))

I know, amug's pretty hard to get into also, but it's 100 more 
connections than you had before...

-- 
Claude                             http://www.ese.ogi.edu/errera.html
errera@ese.ogi.edu                        ftp://wmj.ese.ogi.edu//pub/
                      "Own what you do."





Marathon 2 demo?
From: Brian Ezell <ezell@ernie.bgsu.edu> 
Date: 1995/12/13
MessageID: 4annd3$mlk@infoserver.bgsu.edu#1/1
organization: BGSU
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

Are there any sites for the Marathon 2 Demo besides AMUG and Bungie's 
homepage?  I ask only because these sites are overloaded!  Any response 
would be appreicated

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Re: 19 MB?!?!?
From: shoskins@direct.ca (Shoskins) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: shoskins-1310952125400001@van02045.direct.ca#1/1
organization: Internet Direct
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

In article <45mhis$11o@news4.digex.net>, tarl@access5.digex.net (Tarl
Roger Kudrick) wrote:

>         Are you people KIDDING? Even though the long-awaited MaraII 
> preview is out, the 16-bit version of it is 19 MB in size! It would take 
> me 3-3.5 hours to download this *!@#er! That's assuming my service 
> provider would let me store something this big (at least without charging 
> me...)
>         Even the 8-bit, no music version is 8.5 MB...
>         Did I hear right that MacWorld was going to send the preview out 
> on a CD? If so, I'll wait. If not, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet 
> and script it to go at 2 in the morning on Sunday or something...
> 

   First, the demo that is now available on the web is not the same as the
preview that was available at Boston MacWorld. Second, yes it is a long
download but is worth it, just don't you have anything else to do while it
is downloading. Oh, and don't get it from the Bungie site it takes forever
just to get the site on screen. Get the demo from one of the Amug sites. 
ftp://ftp-2.amug.org
look under the INCOMING directory





To damn busy to download m2demo
From: norwood@lanl.gov (Zach) 
Date: 1995/10/13
MessageID: 45l9sl$n5f@newshost.lanl.gov#1/1
organization: LANL
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

Damn, why do they have so many lines open to log in but it's to busy to
download the demo? You would think they would have anon access limits
rather than make a poor guy sit there trying to download a file in
vane:)





Subject:      Re: Mac and Bungie Are Doomed. Bye Bye My Mac...
From:         brymen@indirect.com (Bryan Mendoza)
Date:         1995/10/14
Message-ID:   <brymen-1410952110410001@s57.phxslip4.indirect.com>
Organization: N.O.Y.F.B.
Newsgroups:   comp.sys.mac.games.action

Hahahahahahah, looks like somone got a little teed off because their
connection got dropped! Poor thing..

<chorus>Awwww</chours>.

Hehehe,


In article <kc35-1410952354210001@cu-dialup-0726.cit.cornell.edu>,
kc35@cornell.edu (Ken) wrote:

>    This thing sux big time. What the hell is Bungie doing? I tried to
> dwonload the demo in their pseudo web site and it just went dead half
> way...twice. This sux big time. What kind of a web site is that? What a
> joke.
>    Well to the guys at Bungie, I will never never buy that stupid
> Marathon2 of yours. So take as long as you want about it. But give the
> good people of the mac community a respectable site for the game. As for
> me, I will say goodbye to my mac as far as games are concerned........it
> just wouldn't do for games. Look at the web site....what a joke. And that
> stupid demo...sigh..well I give up.
>    Bungie is sick.
> 
> -- 
> 
> The secret of happiness is to face the fact that the world is horrible,
horrible, horrible....
>                                              - Russell
> 
> ...the unexamined life is not worth living...  
>                                              - Socrates  
> 
> Madness is something rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, ages
it is the rule.                      
>                                              - Nietzsche

-- 
Bryan Mendoza
http://www.indirect.com/www/brymen/MarathonII.html - Better than Sliced Bread!





Subject:      Re: Mac and Bungie Are Doomed. Bye Bye My Mac...
From:         gt4434d@prism.gatech.edu (Jose R. Perez)
Date:         1995/10/15
Message-ID:   <gt4434d-1510950144000001@192.0.2.1>
Organization: The Georgia Institute of Technology
Newsgroups:   comp.sys.mac.games.action


In article <kc35-1410952354210001@cu-dialup-0726.cit.cornell.edu>, kc35@cornell.edu (Ken) wrote:

>   This thing sux big time. What the hell is Bungie doing? I tried to
>dwonload the demo in their pseudo web site and it just went dead half
>way...twice. This sux big time. What kind of a web site is that? What a
>joke.
>   Well to the guys at Bungie, I will never never buy that stupid
>Marathon2 of yours. So take as long as you want about it. But give the
>good people of the mac community a respectable site for the game. As for
>me, I will say goodbye to my mac as far as games are concerned........it
>just wouldn't do for games. Look at the web site....what a joke. And that
>stupid demo...sigh..well I give up.
>   Bungie is sick.


So, you never got the demo, but it's stupid, you hate the web site because it is slow 
(could that be because a zillion other people are trying to download the demo, and in your 
view that's Bungie's fault), and because of these two facts, you'll quit using your Mac 
for games?

Slow web site = No Mac? Huh??

Basically, although the moving graphics on Bungie's site are a bit much, they are not the 
cause of the slowdown. The slowness is caused by the humongous file being downloaded by 
hundreds of people. Try ftp.amug.org, or other similar sites which have popped up. 
Remember, Bungie did not have to set up a site at all...

Gee, if you are ready to give up your Mac because of a slow web site, then I really hope 
you never run MS Word 6.0.1. You'll throw the machine out the window!! (and you should 
really throw Bill Gates instead!)

-- 
*  Jose R. Perez             *  "Never tell me the odds!" - Han Solo       *
*  gt4434d@prism.gatech.edu  *  Get a head start on obtaining Windows2010  *
*                            *  and a P7 PC... Get a PowerMac today.       *
****************************************************************************





Subject:      Re: Mac and Bungie Are Doomed. Bye Bye My Mac...
From:         joebob@crl.com (Jason Fowler)
Date:         1995/10/15
Message-ID:   <45s3p7$emm@crl13.crl.com>
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access        (415) 705-6060  [Login
Newsgroups:   comp.sys.mac.games.action


Ken (kc35@cornell.edu) wrote:
: good people of the mac community a respectable site for the game. As for
: me, I will say goodbye to my mac as far as games are concerned........it
: just wouldn't do for games. Look at the web site....what a joke. And that
: stupid demo...sigh..well I give up.
:    Bungie is sick.

Lol!  Yea, I would have to agree that the performance of a web site with 
1 million people logged into it is an appropriate way to tell if the 
future of Mac gaming is DOOMed.  :)

Come down, flip that switch on the back of your head(it will turn your brain 
on), ftp to ftp-2.amug.org, and download the 8 meg demo.  Then play 
coolest game on the Mac with all those new network options.





Subject:      Re: Mac and Bungie Are Doomed. Bye Bye My Mac...
From:         tuncer@mcs.com (Tuncer Deniz)
Date:         1995/10/16
Message-ID:   <tuncer-1510952322580001@tuncer.pr.mcs.net>
Organization: MCSNet Internet Services
Newsgroups:   comp.sys.mac.games.action


In article <kc35-1410952354210001@cu-dialup-0726.cit.cornell.edu>,
kc35@cornell.edu (Ken) wrote:

>    This thing sux big time. What the hell is Bungie doing? I tried to
> dwonload the demo in their pseudo web site and it just went dead half
> way...twice. This sux big time. What kind of a web site is that? What a
> joke.
>    Well to the guys at Bungie, I will never never buy that stupid
> Marathon2 of yours. So take as long as you want about it. But give the
> good people of the mac community a respectable site for the game. As for
> me, I will say goodbye to my mac as far as games are concerned........it
> just wouldn't do for games. Look at the web site....what a joke. And that
> stupid demo...sigh..well I give up.
>    Bungie is sick.

Talk about sick, I think I'm going to hurl...

Tuncer

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Segmented Marathon 2 Demo?
From: David Waddington <wadds@atcon.com> 
Date: 1995/11/15
MessageID: 48dc1l$8lh@thor.atcon.com#1/1
organization: Atlantic Connect
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

        Where can I find a segmented version of the Marathon 2 Demo? Thanks in 
advance...





Re: Segmented Marathon 2 Demo?
From: eilersm@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Michael Eilers) 
Date: 1995/11/15
MessageID: eilersm-1511951914380001@192.0.2.1#1/1
organization: Specious Thoughts Inc.
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

In article <48dc1l$8lh@thor.atcon.com>, David Waddington <wadds@atcon.com>
wrote:

>         Where can I find a segmented version of the Marathon 2 Demo?
Thanks in 
> advance...
> 
> 
David Waddington

there is one at Pacific Coast's web site (don't remember the URL, Yahoo it)





A MUCH FASTER way to get MARATHON 2 Demo
From: Ishai <ishaira@netvision.net.il> 
Date: 1995/10/16
MessageID: 45teej$lf9@news.netvision.net.il#1/1
organization: None - Thank God
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

Those of you who tried to download the demo from Bungie's site probably 
noticed that getting anything over 400 bytes/second is impossible. This 
is extremely irratating, especially in a site that expects people to 
download 16 megs worth of demo k's. I gave up after 3 hours.

SOLUTION: go to amug. They got the demo there too, and since they don't 
allow more than 100 users at the same time, you can get up to 1.5K per 
second. Now that's a transfer rate!

The url is: ftp://ftp.amug.org/pub/contrib/marathon/
The name of the file you want goes something like "m2.sea.hqx".


Enjoy the demo,

Ishai





Re: Marathon 2 demo is out!
From: valkyrie@suba.com (valkyrie) 
Date: 1995/10/17
MessageID: valkyrie-1710952315210001@dial07.suba.com#1/1
organization: Suba Communications
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

In article <45lva2$dpl@wanda.pond.com>, russotto@wanda.pond.com wrote:

> In article <45lb6k$ash@carmen.carmen.se>, Dan Ryrlen  <dan@carmen.se> wrote:
> }Hi!
> }
> }Check out
> }http://www.bungie.com
> }It's up.
> 
And if you have over 4 hours on a 14.4k baud modem, you can download all
EIGHT MEGS worth!  Talk about a complete demo!  *OI!*

Anybody download it that is willing to send it on disk via snail mail? 
Better yet...anybody in Chicago I can just go copy the demo from?

-Val





Marathon 2 Demo @ ftp://jumpnet.uoregon.edu
From: cknox@gladstone.uoregon.edu (Cory Knox) 
Date: 1995/10/17
MessageID: cknox-1710951728090001@jumpnet.uoregon.edu#1/1
organization: MPP
newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action

I've posted the Marathon 2 Demo at jumpnet.uoregon.edu to help alleviate
the slow download times from Bungie's FTP site.

It can be found in the games, recomended, and incoming directories.

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