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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PathWays questions
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In article <1993Jul9.170102.15703@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> reinkeha@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Harry A. Reinke) writes:
>From what I've gathered so far there are several objects ...
>Alien Horn (apprently I use this at the rune.)
>Blue Crystal (the only things I found)
> (apperently i use this TWICE on the "black-death")
>Infra-red Goggles (I have no idea what they do)
gee, has nobody even found the Bubbling Red Potion, much less figured out
what it does? :)
jason.
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PiD Labyrinth Help
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.162648.15549@midway.uchicago.edu>
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> So what the hell am I supposed to do? When I try to explore the level I get
> fried by those damn electric spheres in short order, and I can't rest or they
> sneak up on me. And I can't go up to the previous level or I lose all the
> mapping work I have done. Grrr!
Maybe it would be a better idea to follow the path of least resistance and
try going back up to the "Ground Floor" level and exploring what the other
ladder-down leads to (I think the level is called "Feel the Power").
But that's just a suggestion. :) And BTW, I think "The Labyrinth" is
completely random.
jason.
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PiD gripes
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In article <265aan$6qh@phakt.usc.edu> edju@phakt.usc.edu (Chilvarous and Confused) writes:
>root@spss.com (SuperUser) wrote:
>
>> So, where exactly is the challenge in this? Any moron could make it through the
>> game by just fighting a monster over and over again, with no real fear of dying.
>> Because he can always easily fight the monster again. Where is the fear of
>> death with such a game?
>
> According to your line of reasoning, there should be NO option to save
>the game at all!
I'm interested in feedback on this, but here are the reasons Bungie
changed the saved game system for Pathways between the demo and the
release version:
It is too easy to save in the demo. Nobody thinks about saving-- they
just do it. If you could save like this in the release version, it
would be too easy to brick yourself in a corner: "Uh, I don't know
why I saved with 0.2 vitality with that bone four inches from my nose."
(trust me, it's been done).
Or even worse, "Yea, sure I saved after I drank that Red Potion-- but
it didn't seem to do anything, what do you mean I need it?!"
The save dialog forces people to THINK about what they are doing,
and better yet it easily supports (and even encourages) players
to keep multiple saved games around without having to resort to
the Finder.
The save runes (as someone previously said) allow an additional
level of difficulty to be added to the game, but more importantly
they make dying mean something in the release version. In the
demo, dying was meaningless: if you died, you just reverted to the
game you had saved a few minutes (or seconds) previously.
In the release version, dying sets you back. So you don't want
to die. IMHO, this makes game is more exciting when you're in
a dangerous situation.
jason.
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PID help
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In article <2139@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> ness@aecom.yu.edu (seth ness) writes:
>hi,
>ok. i've gotten as far as i can go. i killed the blue flame throwing
>monster on need a light but i can't go down from there. ive gone as far
>up both ladders in happy, carnage as i can. and on the first skitter
>level i'm blocked by the force fields and on th elevel below it(watch
>your step) i'm also blocked by force fields and theres nothing else for
>me to do. help!!
You're missing something on "Watch Your Step". Search the south wall
completely.
jason.
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PiD "Who else wants some?"
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In article <howardCDDqp5.7Av@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>
>I keep on getting killed in the room with the nightmares after the
>ghouls. I have always run out of potions etc by then and I don't have
>any healing potions. My question is, is there any way to rest on this
>level? Everytime I do, another monster appears (even though I've
>killed them all) and hits me.
Well, you _do_ need a lot of potions to get through this series
of levels, but let me suggest a few things:
* immediately use the green crystal on every group of monsters
whose feet touch the ground.
* use the violet crystal on the banshees!
* the grenade launcher is fun, but takes too long to reload
most of the time; use it once and then switch to the AK-47.
* begin each room by sidestepping into the left or right
corner.
* never try to sleep :)
Jason.
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PID - Where is gold key and grenade launcher
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In article <1993Sep30.195049.1627@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> pcwood@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Paul Wood) writes:
>IN pathways:
>Can anyone direct me to the gold key and the grenade launcher ?
You'll find the gold key on the second to last level of the game, "Where
Only Fools Dare Tread" on the body of an unfortunate Cuban. You'll
have to open the door on your way up.
The grenade launcher is on "Need a Light?" (accessable only from the
Labyrinth), but you'll need the Cedar Box because there are only
five or six grenade cartridges in the game.
Hope this helps,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PID - Where is gold key and grenade launcher
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In article <1993Sep30.195049.1627@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> pcwood@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Paul Wood) writes:
>IN pathways:
>Can anyone direct me to the gold key and the grenade launcher ?
You'll find the gold key on the second to last level of the game, "Where
Only Fools Dare Tread" on the body of an unfortunate Cuban. You'll
have to open the door on your way up.
The grenade launcher is on "Need a Light?" (accessable only from the
Labyrinth), but you'll need the Cedar Box because there are only
five or six grenade cartridges in the game.
Hope this helps,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PID Ending...
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In article <1993Oct12.114210.1@aurora.alaska.edu> ftacn@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>
> OK, I killed all the headless,zombies,banshees,ghouls,nightmares,ect..
> and finally the greater nightmares. I killed the alien being, set the
> bomb and bolted for the exit. I get there but the door is sealed shut-
> Aaarrrggghhhh did I miss something? Help I'm oh soo close....
> -Andy
Ooops. Sounds like you forgot to pick up the Alien Gemstone which
appears after you kill the last guy (didn't Javier tell you that you
needed the gemstone to leave?)
Watch out, though, that stone will give you radiation burns unless
you're careful ...
Later,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PID oozies are making mud out of me
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In article <2as3ru$qnk@oac4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> DAVIDN@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (David Needleman) writes:
>I need some help getting past the oozies. They make mud out of me every time
>that I go down to Feel the Power. A previous post recommended using the MP-41.
>My problem is that I dont have one. I've got a clip for one but that's all.
>So where do you find a working MP-41 to make dust out of oozies? Please help.
If you always get spanked when you go down a ladder, try going somewhere
else. :) On the other side of the "Ground Floor" level, there is another
ladder-down which leads to a level called "Wrong Way!". The MP-41 is
down that way, somewhere...
Later,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PiD Help (Gold Door, Guys behind Yellow Barrier)
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In article <2b20le$o90@hamlet.uncg.edu> douglas@hamlet.uncg.edu (Brad 'Sugar Daddy' Douglas) writes:
>[...]on Beware of Low-Flying Nightmares! I don't know
>how to get past the gold doors. I guess there is some sort of gold key,
>since a silver key opened the silver doors. Can anyone tell me where it
>is?
Don't worry about that door right now. You'll get to open it on your
way back up (with an incandescent fireball close on your heels!)
> Secondly, on Lasciate Ogne Speranza, Voi Ch'Intrate (try saying
>that five times fast!) I can't get by those guys that are sitting behind
>yellow barrier. What do I need and where do I find it.
Go down to "Watch Your Step". You're looking for a new crystal, in
an alcove at the center of the south wall of the level. Watch out,
there's about a billion spiders hiding around there.
Later,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: Pathways; forcefield on Lasciate Ogne Speranza, Voi Ch'Intrate
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In article <2d48m2$h2m@hub.ucsb.edu> usully@mcl.ucsb.edu () writes:
>I am absolutely stuck in Pathways into darkness! I have got to the level
>"Lasciate Ogne Speranza, Voi Ch'Intrate
>
>ANd I am blocked by those ghasts that are sitting down and have what
>seems like a forcefield between them and me! I have completed all the
>other levels except for the level with the gold door, because I could
>never find the gold key. What do I do?
Don't worry about the gold key. There's another level below "Lasciate
Ogne Speranza, Voi Ch'Intrate" called "Watch Your Step". You can get to
it without going through any force fields.
Later,
Jason
PS. Does anyone know what Lasciate Ogne Speranza, Voi Ch'Intrate means?
Or where it's from? :)
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: Help in PiD
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In article <755617831.AA01749@bart.asstdc.oz.au> David.Camp@f406.n712.z3.fidonet.org (David Camp) writes:
>Hi all,
> I'm stuck on the level "Warning: Earthquake Zone", and i cant get past
>the Green Oozes. None of the cystals work against them. Can some one please
>tell me how to get past them.
Try talking to the dead Cuban on the same level. Try to find out why
the green oozes didn't attack him. Hmmmm ... I hope you didn't get
rid of that brown potion you found ...
Later,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: pid help needed
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In article <1993Dec16.084518.1025269@bmug.org> Mitch_D._Rudeen@bmug.org writes:
>Is there any logic to the transporter maze at the end of "where only fools
>tread"? I got through it once but can't figure out how to do it again!
>
>
> _thanks,
> Mitch "I can smell the alien god" Rudeen
I hope you have lots of potions. <grin>
The key is to drop a different object in each of the four rooms and
map the ways in which they connect. If you find this too irritating,
try: right, forward, back.
Later,
Jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: PiD and The Purple Burping Monster...
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In article <2ihd7f$qbk@pith.uoregon.edu> rtaylor@cie-2.uoregon.edu (Russ Taylor) writes:
>There's nothing wrong with the program, it's just meant to kick your ass
>a little.
<grin>
wearing the red cloak very often is like smoking and pumping gas; every
now and then you just die.
anybody ever type an underscore while playing the game? (shift-dash)
try it. it's fun.
later,
jason
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From: jon3@quads.uchicago.edu (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: Can't find Greg in PiD
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In article <2jgh7f$36k@pith.uoregon.edu> rtaylor@cie-2.uoregon.edu (Russ Taylor) writes:
>Dave Mayer put forth into the Codex of Shub-Internet:
>> HELP! I've found the remains of the American expedition, and Ed (the poor
>> armless soul in the pillar area of Need a Light) has been helpful enough
>> to tell me that he saw Greg run back through the area ten minutes after the
>> rest of the expedition went to their doom at the hands (?...) of the Weber
>> Char-Lite blob....but, theoretically, the only ladder out of NaL? leads back
>> to the Labyrinth., and I can't find Greg *ANYWHERE* on the neighboring levels
>> to Layrinth. Spoilers are unnecessary, but hints would be greatly appreciated...
>
>Here's an easy hint:
>He's under the first skitter level. Somewhere under :)
>
Ask him about Street Fighter. :)
Later,
Jason
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