From: grendel@doubleaught.com (Grendel) Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon Subject: Re: Moo's Twisted Plot... Date: 18 Nov 1996 20:42:07 GMT Organization: Double Aught Lines: 30 Message-ID: <grendel-1811961545040001@192.163.1.100> References: <look-1711962326060001@cyber138.cyberspc.mb.ca> <19961118195000.OAA05071@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gregk.dialup.access.net In article <19961118195000.OAA05071@ladder01.news.aol.com>, c1ndyh@aol.com wrote: > << self willed the peril of a thousand fates>> > > This could refer to the Champion Eternal of the Elric Saga series by > Michael Moorcock. There are more similarities of this series to the MI > story, including a the use of Roland's horn, entities who maintain the > balance of the universe, and chaos ceatures. There's a good web page on > Elric ...um...somewhere. Comment, Greg K.? > Well, actually, never read any of the micheal moorcock stuff. Although I heard about all 17(?) books second hand when I was 13 from my friend Josh who read them all... Here's a question: Where do an android's dreams come from? (Inquiring minds want to know...) I vaguely remember something about a movie, my brother was there.. Unicorns running through the terrible city filled with magic. Was it all just a dream? later greg k Subject: Re: Moo's Twisted Plot... From: grendel@doubleaught.com (Grendel) Date: 1996/11/21 Message-Id: <grendel-2111961444510001@192.163.1.100> References: <328526B7.437C@ix.netcom.com> <petrichE0nJBE.7vK@netcom.com> <IJBall-1211961009210001@mac_rbk_3.chem.ucla.edu> <look-1511961541400001@cyber128.cyberspc.mb.ca> <328E3244.73F4@worldnet.att.net> <look-1711962326060001@cyber138.cyberspc.mb.ca> <eberly-2011962336240001@spk-38.cet.com> Organization: Double Aught Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon [Fewer Headers] In article <eberly-2011962336240001@spk-38.cet.com>, eberly@cet.com (General Rhad) wrote: > In article <look-1711962326060001@cyber138.cyberspc.mb.ca>, look@it.up > (A.S.) wrote: > > > > "thousands are sailing > > > the same self the only self > > > > > self willed the peril of a thousand fates > > > > > a line of infinite ends finite finishing > > > > > arching to the single point of > > > consciousness > > > > > find yourself > > > starting back" > > I think that it can be translated into the folowing... > > Lots of people > But only one > Doomed themselves > Many possibilties, limited outcomes > Coming together at one point on time -- single point -- climax -- > Find yourself > Doing it over > > Which can be translated into > > Everybody at Tau Ceti and the Marathon were toast from the start > But somthing else could have happened > But with one outcome > Try another path for a change > > > which supports my theory of M2 and Mƒ being alternate stories. > > -- > "Save a Soul, Slay a Vampire." > > <<END.TRANSMISSION>> > <<TRANSMISSION.ACCEPTED>> Man this is a good thread.. Thanks for the feedback (someone's previous post about the story being overdone.) Actually to answer him - Mƒ was planned as an expansion for M2. We basically locked down the story after assuming that people were familiar with the previous games. A bunch of you guys are on the right track, but I think that you're still not seeing the big picture. What's been going on since M1? What do we all dream about (non-Freudian)? What in a general sense are all stories about? What is life about? What does the Jjarro have to do with all this? What is the connection between dreams and reality? What is the connection between a story and reality? What is the connection between our perception and reality? Answer these questions and you shall know the truth. ciao Greg k Tell me of your homeworld, Usul PS I cackle all the time, but this thread makes me cackle like crazy... ---------------- Head Tool Double Aught,inc ---------------- Subject: Re: Probs with map From: grendel@doubleaught.com (Grendel) Date: 1996/11/21 Message-Id: <grendel-2111961416360001@192.163.1.100> References: <19961118020300.VAA18470@ladder01.news.aol.com> <acspring-2011962005240001@max6-vgd-ca-34.earthlink.net> Organization: Double Aught Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon [Fewer Headers] In article <acspring-2011962005240001@max6-vgd-ca-34.earthlink.net>, acspring@earthlink.net (Andrew Spring) wrote: > In article <19961118020300.VAA18470@ladder01.news.aol.com>, > kitten344@aol.com wrote: > > >I'm having a problem with my computer freezing up after I run marathon > >with the maps I made with forge... does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?? > > Take it out of the refrigerator? > > Either that go into Visual mode, and run around _all_ of your map, looking > in every direction you can think of. > > If you have been hanging at the same spot in the map every time, you > probably have too many polygons along a given line of sight. Check out > every possible LOS until you find the bad guy. > > >Love and dishwashers, > > Dishwashers to you too. > dishwashers.. Please don't talk to much about dishwashers... Nor should anyone ever challenge the god of thunder during a storm. Trust me. Refridgerators are ok. Dishwashers aren't. Ok. There is something that can crash maps that Forge doesn't look for -> basically if you have too many points in a line --- more than 12 or so... Forge will crash in visual mode if you look down a wall that has too many points on it. So will Marathon 1,2, or ƒ. If you have a wall like this, you can fix the problem by moving one of the points in to obstruct the others. (the map might have a line that isn't straight BTW.) Or you can add a column. This problem occurs often times with stairs, or complex elevation geometry where everthing was done on the grid with a high level of symmetry (all the points are replicated from another end...) If this doesn't make sense, I've also explained it on the Hastur pages: www.doubleaught.com/hastur Look in the Acme Station section or the Busted Section. Hope this helps, Greg k ----------------- Head Tool Double Aught, Inc ----------------- From: grendel@doubleaught.com (Grendel) Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon Subject: Re: Moo's Twisted Plot... Date: 21 Nov 1996 19:41:47 GMT Organization: Double Aught Lines: 73 Message-ID: <grendel-2111961444510001@192.163.1.100> References: <328526B7.437C@ix.netcom.com> <petrichE0nJBE.7vK@netcom.com> <IJBall-1211961009210001@mac_rbk_3.chem.ucla.edu> <look-1511961541400001@cyber128.cyberspc.mb.ca> <328E3244.73F4@worldnet.att.net> <look-1711962326060001@cyber138.cyberspc.mb.ca> <eberly-2011962336240001@spk-38.cet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gregk.dialup.access.net In article <eberly-2011962336240001@spk-38.cet.com>, eberly@cet.com (General Rhad) wrote: > In article <look-1711962326060001@cyber138.cyberspc.mb.ca>, look@it.up > (A.S.) wrote: > > > > "thousands are sailing > > > the same self the only self > > > > > self willed the peril of a thousand fates > > > > > a line of infinite ends finite finishing > > > > > arching to the single point of > > > consciousness > > > > > find yourself > > > starting back" > > I think that it can be translated into the folowing... > > Lots of people > But only one > Doomed themselves > Many possibilties, limited outcomes > Coming together at one point on time -- single point -- climax -- > Find yourself > Doing it over > > Which can be translated into > > Everybody at Tau Ceti and the Marathon were toast from the start > But somthing else could have happened > But with one outcome > Try another path for a change > > > which supports my theory of M2 and M∞ being alternate stories. > > -- > "Save a Soul, Slay a Vampire." > > <<END.TRANSMISSION>> > <<TRANSMISSION.ACCEPTED>> Man this is a good thread.. Thanks for the feedback (someone's previous post about the story being overdone.) Actually to answer him - M∞ was planned as an expansion for M2. We basically locked down the story after assuming that people were familiar with the previous games. A bunch of you guys are on the right track, but I think that you're still not seeing the big picture. What's been going on since M1? What do we all dream about (non-Freudian)? What in a general sense are all stories about? What is life about? What does the Jjarro have to do with all this? What is the connection between dreams and reality? What is the connection between a story and reality? What is the connection between our perception and reality? Answer these questions and you shall know the truth. ciao Greg k Tell me of your homeworld, Usul PS I cackle all the time, but this thread makes me cackle like crazy... ---------------- Head Tool Double Aught,inc ---------------- Subject: Re: Celebrities and Marathon From: grendel@doubleaught.com (Grendel) Date: 1996/11/25 Message-Id: <grendel-2511961829470001@192.163.1.100> References: <328E5345.63F5@worldnet.att.net> <19961118051500.AAA22302@ladder01.news.aol.com> <3290AC75.718@worldnet.att.net> <acspring-2011961946200001@max6-vgd-ca-34.earthlink.net> <kirill-2111962027160001@news.lava.net> Organization: Double Aught Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon [Fewer Headers] Just another celebrity story: My brother just got back from Prague where he lives. He was working for an exposition for something or other... He said that they got Mantlebrot to play a quick game of Marathon. Evidently, he didn't play it for very long.. I guess it wasn't chaotic enough. :) later greg k ---------------- Greg Kirkpatrick double aught ----------------