Simalucrum speech
From: DSKeeler@UMich.edu (Dennis Keeler) 
Date: 1996/01/05
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   I've heard them say it many times, but I still can't figure out one of
the sentences the exploda-bobs say. It sounds something like "God bless
the Peace Corps" or "Blast past the Pit Corn". Neither of these makes much
sense in the context of the game. Perhaps this is what Blake means by
saying things that the real Bobs wouldn't say. Anyone know what they're
saying?

-Dennis Keeler (dskeeler@umich.edu)


                                       

Re: Simalucrum speech
From: petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) 
Date: 1996/01/05
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In article <DSKeeler-0501961028130001@rep00010.reshall.umich.edu>,
Dennis Keeler <DSKeeler@UMich.edu> wrote:
>   I've heard them say it many times, but I still can't figure out one of
>the sentences the exploda-bobs say. It sounds something like "God bless
>the Peace Corps" or "Blast past the Pit Corn". Neither of these makes much
>sense in the context of the game. Perhaps this is what Blake means by
>saying things that the real Bobs wouldn't say. Anyone know what they're
>saying?

        My guess is that it's some garbled version of "God Bless the 
Marine Corps", which I would say is an assertion on the part of the bad 
Bobs that they are really good, and not worth attacking. Something like 
"Don't Shoot!"
-- 
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Re: Simalucrum speech
From: russotto@wanda.pond.com (Matthew T. Russotto) 
Date: 1996/01/06
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In article <petrichDKpsLs.3GC@netcom.com>,
Loren Petrich <petrich@netcom.com> wrote:
}In article <DSKeeler-0501961028130001@rep00010.reshall.umich.edu>,
}Dennis Keeler <DSKeeler@UMich.edu> wrote:
}>   I've heard them say it many times, but I still can't figure out one of
}>the sentences the exploda-bobs say. It sounds something like "God bless
}>the Peace Corps" or "Blast past the Pit Corn". Neither of these makes much
}>sense in the context of the game. Perhaps this is what Blake means by
}>saying things that the real Bobs wouldn't say. Anyone know what they're
}>saying?

}       My guess is that it's some garbled version of "God Bless the 
}Marine Corps", which I would say is an assertion on the part of the bad 
}Bobs that they are really good, and not worth attacking. Something like 
}"Don't Shoot!"

Some of them seem to say "Shoot Me!".  I haven't figured out if this
is their idea of falsely distinguishing themselves from the Bobs who
say "Don't shoot", or if it's just a cut-off "Don't shoot me".  

M2 seems to have a lot of sound glitches, and visual ones too-- the
aliens and Bobs often disappear when they are right next to you.
Hopefully there will be a minor revision correcting this. (hint!)
-- 
Matthew T. Russotto      russotto@pond.com     russotto@his.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue."




Re: Simalucrum speech
From: falafel@twain.oit.umass.edu (Rob "Anomaly Boy" Keller) 
Date: 1996/01/08
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In article <DSKeeler-0501961028130001@rep00010.reshall.umich.edu>,
DSKeeler@UMich.edu (Dennis Keeler) wrote:

>    I've heard them say it many times, but I still can't figure out one of
> the sentences the exploda-bobs say. It sounds something like "God bless
> the Peace Corps" or "Blast past the Pit Corn". Neither of these makes much
> sense in the context of the game. Perhaps this is what Blake means by
> saying things that the real Bobs wouldn't say. Anyone know what they're
> saying?
> 
> -Dennis Keeler (dskeeler@umich.edu)

The way I heard it, also not making sense, was, "Frog blast the Vid Corps"

                                       
                                       

Simulcrum speech answer!!!!
From: Greg Whitehead <gumby@bert.cs.byu.edu> 
Date: 1996/01/19
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There's been a lot of debate over what the simulcrums in M2 are saying.
One phrase in particular people have said sounds like "Frog blast the vent core" or
"God bless the marine corps."

However, I think I have the answer.  I'm taking this on the word of my friend, but
he told me that he recorded himself saying "Frog blast the vent core" and then
played the sound backward.  Guess what?  According to my friend, playing the
sound backwards sounds just like another familiar phrase from M1:

"WE'RE EVERYWHERE!!!"

Remember, I haven't tried this myself or used the actual sound from the game, but 
this might be the answer we've been looking for.  Try it yourself and let me know.


                                       
                                       
Re: Simalucrum speech
From: mazulauf@atmos.met.utah.edu (Mike Zulauf) 
Date: 1996/01/22
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In article <falafel-1701960137510001@nscs21p20.remote.umass.edu>,
falafel@twain.oit.umass.edu (Rob "Anomaly Boy" Keller) wrote:

> I THOUGHT IT WAS (sorry 'bout the caps lock, just finished playing some
> marathon 2) 'God Bless the Marine Corps' at first too, but after listening
> more closely, I was less convinced.

I think you're right after all.  Maybe 'Frog Blast The Vent Core' is
correct. . .  What does it matter, kill 'em anyway . . .

Mike

-- 
Mike Zulauf
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Re: Simulcrum speech answer!!!!
From: DSKeeler@UMich.edu (Dennis Keeler) 
Date: 1996/01/24
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::In article <4dn953$9h1@jan.et.byu.edu>, Greg Whitehead
<gumby@bert.cs.byu.edu> wrote:
> 
> However, I think I have the answer.  I'm taking this on the word of my
friend, but
> he told me that he recorded himself saying "Frog blast the vent core" and then
> played the sound backward.  Guess what?  According to my friend, playing the
> sound backwards sounds just like another familiar phrase from M1:
> 
> "WE'RE EVERYWHERE!!!"
> 
> Remember, I haven't tried this myself or used the actual sound from the
game, but 
> this might be the answer we've been looking for.  Try it yourself and
let me know.

   I think your friend was pulling your leg. I tried this with the real
sound and it is nowhere near We're Everywhere or They're Everywhere. It's
even more incomprehensible backwards. Though now I have played it forwards
for the first time outside the game, and I now agree with the assessment
of "Frog blast the vent core."
   BTW the only word I can clearly hear, while playing backwards, is
"Narf" at the end, leading me to believe that Pinky now has some
connection with Marathon.

"Are you thinking what I'm thinking?"
"I think so, Durandal, but a Fl'ickta and a Pfhor? What would the children
look like?"

   Imagining Pinky's laugh while killing Pfhor is also a fun exercise.

-Dennis Keeler (dskeeler@umich.edu)




Re: Simalucrum speech
From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) 
Date: 1996/01/28
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In article <31057ED1.7060@onramp.net>, Will Starck <legend@onramp.net> wrote:

>Sorry, but the BOBs clearly say "Frog blast the vent core" which
>is a bastardization, so to speak, of "God Bless the Marine Corps". 
>Remember that simulacrums are supposed to say abnormal things like 
>this, "kill me", etc...
>
>
>3) Aw what the hell, just shoot it!

Only what will happen if you shooting an innocent Bob in a room that's
fill will lots of normal Bobs?

-- 
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Re: Simulcrum speech answer!!!!
From: seth@cie-2.uoregon.edu (Master NetHacker) 
Date: 1996/01/28
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Here's what Bungie said to my question about the Words of Bob.  ;)
(apologies if this has been hashed into the ground already)


To: seth@cie-2.uoregon.edu
Subject: Re: M2 questions!

Hey Seth-

To answer your questions...

1- Yes, there's a problem with switching POV in net game replays.  (You 
can actually do it if your Team colors are identical, I should point 
out.)  We're working on a patch.

2- Our map editor?  Are you insane?!  Actually, we've thought about it, 
but there are still no definite plans.

3- The correct term is "Frog-blast the vent core."  Hope this clears 
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
everything up.

Matthew Soell
Online Liason
Bungie Software
matt@bungie.com