From: elk...@pop.mis.net (Sean Elkins) Subject: A secret, hidden game???? Date: 1998/12/05 Message-ID: <elkins-ya02408000R0512981010180001@netnews.mis.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 418956348 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: news2.randori.com 912870429 206.28.37.204 (Sat, 05 Dec 1998 07:07:09 PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 07:07:09 PDT Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon To shorten this story, my HD copy of Marathon got corrupted, so I tried running it from the CD. It worked, so I deleted the HD game. I then tried to double-click the saved game on my desktop and was dropped into a new game with a totally new interface and enimies like the skitters in PID. The title marathon.fat flashes across the menu bar when I launch it. I should note that my manual is not here with me right now, so I couldn't install the serial number over, so it won't let me double-click the game icon and play. The marathon.fat game is the only thing it will do. I've owned M1 for several years and have played through all three games and have never seen this before. What gives? Sean ***************************************************** Sean Elkins - Educator, Mac user, Responsible Gun Owner Owenton, KY elk...@mis.net ***************************************************** From: co...@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: A secret, hidden game???? Date: 1998/12/05 Message-ID: <74cdp1$3vh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 419046808 References: <elkins-ya02408000R0512981010180001@netnews.mis.net> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.101.39.58 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Dec 05 22:57:37 1998 GMT Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) In article <elkins-ya02408000R0512981010180...@netnews.mis.net>, elk...@pop.mis.net (Sean Elkins) wrote: > To shorten this story, my HD copy of Marathon got corrupted, so I tried > running it from the CD. It worked, so I deleted the HD game. I then tried > to double-click the saved game on my desktop and was dropped into a new > game with a totally new interface and enimies like the skitters in PID. The > title marathon.fat flashes across the menu bar when I launch it. > > I should note that my manual is not here with me right now, so I couldn't > install the serial number over, so it won't let me double-click the game > icon and play. The marathon.fat game is the only thing it will do. > > I've owned M1 for several years and have played through all three games and > have never seen this before. What gives? > > Sean > > ***************************************************** > Sean Elkins - Educator, Mac user, Responsible Gun Owner > Owenton, KY > > elk...@mis.net > ***************************************************** This is no joke! I tried it! I just installed Marathon, played until the first save spot, and quit. I threw away my copy and double-clicked on the game with the CD in the drive. Suddenly, I was in a different game. It looked like the original pictures of the game that are on the Marathon Story page. Complete with the "Grendel Was Here" textures. The game was obviously incomplete, because when you shoot an enemy, they flip back and forth rapidly between the hit sprite for a few seconds. Then, they go on. Eventually, you'll kill them. I've only seen one enemy and one weapon, so far. I truly think this is the original Marathon game. It must be. Everyone has got to see it to believe it. I don't know if it will work with the Trilogy CD, but it will with the original. I gotta go, I need more info on this. Cord --- Utterly baffled at the number of secrets in the Marathon games. Is it possible that this can happen with Marathon 2 and OO? I've got to know.... -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own From: macga...@DAMNTHATSPAMohana.com (Michael Park) Subject: Re: A secret, hidden game???? Date: 1998/12/05 Message-ID: <macgamer-ya02408000R0512981716530001@news.supernews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 419116055 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <elkins-ya02408000R0512981010180001@netnews.mis.net> <74cdp1$3vh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Trace: 912914161 DXEB4AVAVB633D154 usenet49.supernews.com Organization: N/A X-Organization: Pacific Globalnet Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon In article <74cdp1$3v...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, co...@my-dejanews.com wrote: > This is no joke! I tried it! I just installed Marathon, played until the > first save spot, and quit. I threw away my copy and double-clicked on the > game with the CD in the drive. Suddenly, I was in a different game. It > looked like the original pictures of the game that are on the Marathon Story > page. Complete with the "Grendel Was Here" textures. The game was obviously > incomplete, because when you shoot an enemy, they flip back and forth rapidly > between the hit sprite for a few seconds. Then, they go on. Eventually, > you'll kill them. I've only seen one enemy and one weapon, so far. I truly > think this is the original Marathon game. It must be. Everyone has got to > see it to believe it. I don't know if it will work with the Trilogy CD, but > it will with the original. I gotta go, I need more info on this. > > Cord --- Utterly baffled at the number of secrets in the Marathon games. Is > it possible that this can happen with Marathon 2 and OO? I've got to > know.... That's the Marathon Beta. If you have the Trilogy CD, look inside the "Marathon Extras" folder. You'll find a folder called "old marathons betas". There are three (count'em THREE) versions of a very early Marathon in there. The Finder probably got confused. You deleted Marathon 1, so that wiped the game from the Desktop file. You double click on the saved game, it searches your hard drive for Marathon 1, no dice. It goes to your CD. Either the Finder searches from the first part of the CD's directory to the last or the other way around. Whatever happened, it found the Marathon beta first before it found the real Marathon 1. Want to see the beta? Use ResEdit and lurk around the CD. ResEdit allows you to open invisible files and look inside invisible folders... so... TIP: If you have the System 7.5 Find File Utility, hit option while clicking on the search criteria (the leftmost popup box). Four new options will appear on the bottom. One option is "Visibility". Choose that option and then hit "Find". Who knows what you'll run into. By the way, isn't the M1 CD the one with all the cool digitized music? -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ |Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audientor Ito. | |Michael Park | |<forspambots>e...@spam.com(Remove DAMNTHATSPAM in domain to reply)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ From: co...@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: A secret, hidden game???? Date: 1998/12/05 Message-ID: <74cet9$4ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 419061281 References: <elkins-ya02408000R0512981010180001@netnews.mis.net> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.101.39.58 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Dec 05 23:16:59 1998 GMT Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To follow up my previous post, I have found the location of the game. There are actually three of them. All inside a hidden folder called 'old marathons' in the Holiday Marathon Music folder. Had these been found before? I don't own the Trilogy CD, but I've heard everyone talk about the hidden things on it, have these been found long ago, and Sean just now discovered them for himself, and I just discovered them because of him? Or is this the first instance of these appearing. I can only get into the marathon.alpha.fat program. The other two crash when I try to run them. I'm going to go mess around with them some more. I'll return. I beat the first level of the Marathon alpha. It crashed and I was kicked out. Cord --- Completely joyous by this little easter egg. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own From: macga...@DAMNTHATSPAMohana.com (Michael Park) Subject: Re: A secret, hidden game???? Date: 1998/12/06 Message-ID: <macgamer-ya02408000R0612981549330001@news.supernews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 419475387 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <elkins-ya02408000R0512981010180001@netnews.mis.net> <74cet9$4ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Trace: 912995319 DXEB4AVAVB630D154 usenet41.supernews.com Organization: N/A X-Organization: Pacific Globalnet Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon In article <74cet9$4u...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, co...@my-dejanews.com wrote: > To follow up my previous post, I have found the location of the game. There > are actually three of them. All inside a hidden folder called 'old > marathons' in the Holiday Marathon Music folder. Had these been found > before? I don't own the Trilogy CD, but I've heard everyone talk about the > hidden things on it, have these been found long ago, and Sean just now > discovered them for himself, and I just discovered them because of him? Or > is this the first instance of these appearing. I can only get into the > marathon.alpha.fat program. The other two crash when I try to run them. I'm > going to go mess around with them some more. I'll return. I beat the first > level of the Marathon alpha. It crashed and I was kicked out. There is a folder called "old marathons betas" on the Trilogy CD. The Marathon 1 CD owners were probably _supposed_ to be the ones to find the betas before the Trilogy CD owners. Of course, the Trilogy CD owners have it easy, we get the betas in a nice little folder under a folder called "Marathon Extras". While you M1 CD owners have to search and work for it. I can't get the last two betas to run. I can only get the first one. The first one is the PID-like Marathon. The other two - I don't know. One requires a PPC, so it's out of the question. The other one crashes with a type 10 error. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ |Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audientor Ito. | |Michael Park | |<forspambots>e...@spam.com(Remove DAMNTHATSPAM in domain to reply)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ From: elk...@pop.mis.net (Sean Elkins) Subject: Re: A secret, hidden game???? Date: 1998/12/07 Message-ID: <elkins-ya02408000R0712982244220001@netnews.mis.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 419902059 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: news2.randori.com 913088471 206.28.37.164 (Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:41:11 PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:41:11 PDT Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon >From: co...@my-dejanews.com >Newsgroups: alt.games.marathon >Subject: Re: A secret, hidden game???? >Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 23:16:59 GMT > >To follow up my previous post, I have found the location of the game. There >are actually three of them. All inside a hidden folder called 'old >marathons' in the Holiday Marathon Music folder. Had these been found >before? I don't own the Trilogy CD, but I've heard everyone talk about the >hidden things on it, have these been found long ago, and Sean just now >discovered them for himself, and I just discovered them because of him? Or >is this the first instance of these appearing. I can only get into the >marathon.alpha.fat program. The other two crash when I try to run them. I'm >going to go mess around with them some more. I'll return. I beat the first >level of the Marathon alpha. It crashed and I was kicked out. > >Cord >--- >Completely joyous by this little easter egg. As a follow-up, once I discovered this thing but after my original post, I went looking for Marathon.fat with the invisible command in Find File. It does indeed appear in a hidden folder in Marathon Holiday music. Did anybody know about this before? Did I just discover something. Anyway, I'm curious to know if anybody ever used ResEdit or DiskTop to make this app visible? I ask because if you do a Command-S in the game, you get a save dialog box, but you can't ever see the saved file. I wonder if you make it visible if you can run a saved game editor on it? Oh, there is another cool weapon besides the pistol, a energy pulse cannon that kills with one shot. A nice weapon. Sean ***************************************************** Sean Elkins - Educator, Mac user, Responsible Gun Owner Owenton, KY elk...@mis.net *****************************************************